12th August 2020
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In Defense of Damen AND Sled

Made by Zes in The Lounge

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12th August 2020, 06:34 PM

Mods pls don't trash or lock this it's approved by Chelsey and Damen

So I might catch a lot of heat for this but there's a lot of drama and this needs to be said. I love Sled and she's my friend too so this isn't a hate post on anyone. It's just me trying to calm everyone down because it's a lil harsh rn.

Damen checking mail
Damen checks his mail now, he responds quick, boom this is settled, onto the next topic. Stop hatin on the man he gonna improve his ways.

Removing Sled from the community
I've been noticing a lot of hate toward Damen from a few people on discord, some moods talking down on Damen, etc. I just feel that all the hate toward Damen rn is VERY unnecessary. I understand everyone has a love for Sled and are pretty torn over how she got banned (even I am). They're saying Damen is biased, he's let other peoples mistakes slide, etc. I personally feel like that's really not true. Everyone has faced their consequences depending on the severity of their actions. I feel like nobody should really be picking sides. Just know that Damen had his reasons to remove Sled from the community. This also does NOT mean that Sled is a bad person, she's great but we don't know the full story of everything that happened. This is something that they should be dealing with themselves personally rather than so many people just showing Damen hate because he did what he had to do. It's not our business even though it was made public, but what do you expect Damen to do when an administrator is demoted and removed from the community. He can't act like it never happened and go about his day without everyone just wondering where Sled disappeared to randomly.

Damen obviously didn't ban Sled because she criticized him, yet a lot of people say this is the reason. She was honest with him and Damen even said that he appreciates when his admins are upfront with him, and not just some "yes men."

I've heard many people complaining about how Frogs has done so much yet he's only been given a 1 week BOS. The difference between Frogs and Sled is that Frogs is basically a crimezone character at this point who was only breaking rules in a penguin game. He doesn't really have much of a relationship with Damen. Meanwhile, Sled and Damen seem to be really close friends and this was something that affected their relationship on a personal level, which led Damen into doing what he did. Again, this isn't hate toward u sled ily <3 But I think people get my point.

Sriram was banned and removed from the community many times. So you can't give Damen heat for keeping him around... because he didn't.

I think I got my point across and I just wanted to try and calm down the drama and minimize the hate toward Damen because he really doesn't deserve it. He did it for personal reasons. He has a close relationship with Sled and he felt hurt just like we all would in this situation.

But ye... We love Sled and we love Damen. Neither of em deserve hate, they are great at what they do and they're both great people in general.

Aight yall easy don't hate me
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+1 by EbonJaeger, Varai, sleddy1, Tommo and 14 others

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12th August 2020, 06:43 PM

I would just like to say that in my call with Damen he was very upset that people were acting against him because of me and my actions and what I said, which is somewhat true but somewhat not, it was constructive criticism, not hate at all. Which is what I told him in my imsgs to him. Everyone is seriously happy he will be checking mail more.
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12th August 2020, 06:44 PM

We love Sled. People make mistakes.
Love your loyalty Zes <3 xoxo
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12th August 2020, 06:49 PM

Thank you Zes, that cleared things up.
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12th August 2020, 07:26 PM

I agree with a lot of this except the frogs comment. Being “basically a cz character” should not be a free for an actual user to behave in a toxic and hurtful manner as well as break the rules repeatedly. Crimezone still goes on without him being here. It’s just shocking that Sled got a huge punishment for some offhanded and very out of character comments on a non-DSGHQ related server when you compare it to things other people have done on the DSGHQ platforms. We all know Sled isn’t really like that and she doesn’t do things to intentionally hurt others.

Otherwise, this is all well put.
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12th August 2020, 07:50 PM

Loki wrote on 12th August 2020, 07:26 PM:
I agree with a lot of this except the frogs comment. Being “basically a cz character” should not be a free for an actual user to behave in a toxic and hurtful manner as well as break the rules repeatedly. Crimezone still goes on without him being here. It’s just shocking that Sled got a huge punishment for some offhanded and very out of character comments on a non-DSGHQ related server when you compare it to things other people have done on the DSGHQ platforms. We all know Sled isn’t really like that and she doesn’t do things to intentionally hurt others.
Otherwise, this is all well put.

im not at all sayin cz characters get a free pass. I meant he was only breaking rules on the game and he was punished and that homie got banned deservingly. Not that he has a free get outta jail pass. The stuff he did literally happens on a daily basis on oldcp
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13th August 2020, 08:48 AM

zes wrote on 12th August 2020, 06:34 PM:
Mods pls don't trash or lock this it's approved by Chelsey and Damen
So I might catch a lot of heat for this but there's a lot of drama and this needs to be said. I love Sled and she's my friend too so this isn't a hate post on anyone. It's just me trying to calm everyone down because it's a lil harsh rn.
Damen checking mail
Damen checks his mail now, he responds quick, boom this is settled, onto the next topic. Stop hatin on the man he gonna improve his ways.
Removing Sled from the community
I've been noticing a lot of hate toward Damen from a few people on discord, some moods talking down on Damen, etc. I just feel that all the hate toward Damen rn is VERY unnecessary. I understand everyone has a love for Sled and are pretty torn over how she got banned (even I am). They're saying Damen is biased, he's let other peoples mistakes slide, etc. I personally feel like that's really not true. Everyone has faced their consequences depending on the severity of their actions. I feel like nobody should really be picking sides. Just know that Damen had his reasons to remove Sled from the community. This also does NOT mean that Sled is a bad person, she's great but we don't know the full story of everything that happened. This is something that they should be dealing with themselves personally rather than so many people just showing Damen hate because he did what he had to do. It's not our business even though it was made public, but what do you expect Damen to do when an administrator is demoted and removed from the community. He can't act like it never happened and go about his day without everyone just wondering where Sled disappeared to randomly.
Damen obviously didn't ban Sled because she criticized him, yet a lot of people say this is the reason. She was honest with him and Damen even said that he appreciates when his admins are upfront with him, and not just some "yes men."
I've heard many people complaining about how Frogs has done so much yet he's only been given a 1 week BOS. The difference between Frogs and Sled is that Frogs is basically a crimezone character at this point who was only breaking rules in a penguin game. He doesn't really have much of a relationship with Damen. Meanwhile, Sled and Damen seem to be really close friends and this was something that affected their relationship on a personal level, which led Damen into doing what he did. Again, this isn't hate toward u sled ily But I think people get my point.
Sriram was banned and removed from the community many times. So you can't give Damen heat for keeping him around... because he didn't.
I think I got my point across and I just wanted to try and calm down the drama and minimize the hate toward Damen because he really doesn't deserve it. He did it for personal reasons. He has a close relationship with Sled and he felt hurt just like we all would in this situation.
But ye... We love Sled and we love Damen. Neither of em deserve hate, they are great at what they do and they're both great people in general.
Aight yall easy don't hate me

Firstly, everyone has to be judged equally by the rules otherwise the rules themselves don't matter.
Secondly, Sled said things behind his back, but he ignored people bullying her constantly, swearing at her, telling her to kill herself and Damen responded by keeping them in the game.
Lastly, I don't think you understand that 'removed from the community many times' isn't good enough. You don't let someone preying on the userbase get off of a ban. Second chances are fine, but it's 100000 chances now.
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