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13th August 2020, 12:42 PM

Hi Everyone,

I know there has been a lot of drama over the past few days, and even though I rarely address it in posts like these I felt the need to offer my perspective.

I have NEVER seen Damen so upset over something in eight years. Remember, he is human too! I think we all owe him an apology.

There was definitely wrong on both sides, but remember that a lot of what was going on happened out of the public eye. Sled behaved immaturely. If she had been more respectful and calm when speaking to Damen none of this drama would have happened.

Put yourself in Damen's shoes. Even though he works full-time, he has spent the last 10 years spending hundreds of dollars to make this website for all of us. Yes, Damen historically is not the best at responding to mail and Discord messages. But that's because he singlehandedly has to fix all bugs and create new content for P3D, OldCP (including CZ, create, updates), Forums, Wiki, etc. Having patience is key. Even Chelsey and I wait days sometimes for a response. Please be patient!

It takes a lot to earn Damen's trust. It took Sled years and she rose to the very top of the ladder. This is not the first time where Sled messed up and did not handle it in a mature fashion. Remember the time she got banished from the South? Administrators are expected to behave more maturely and handle issues privately. I don't want to cause more drama about bringing up specifics, but I assure you that there was a lack of maturity and respect for Damen by Sled (which I know she is sorry for) that really upset him. Damen considered Sled a friend and gave her the benefit of talking to her on Discord, but then after she would completely disregard his feelings and made the drama worse. No hate towards Sled. I know she was just upset, but we must acknowledge the lack of maturity and lashing out that led to hate towards Damen.

It is never ok to gang up on someone, and that is what I saw happen to Damen. Again, folks thought they knew the whole story when in reality they knew a fraction of it. Please have some respect for the guy who works endlessly to make us new content and remember there are two sides to every story. If you have an issue, of course raise it, but please do so respectfully. The best way to get Damen to consider an idea is to talk to him about it in private, or by making a respectful forum post.

As I have said before, remember this is a game. Please remember that DSGHQ is not Damen's only job and to be respectful that he has other commitments. He gives as much as possible for this game, trust me.

Sled, I personally am asking you to accept your ban with dignity and come back refreshed and ready to rejoin the community. Please stop all of the negativity that I have been seeing on Discord. We all are so grateful for your help and friendship, I would hate to see it ruined by one issue.
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13th August 2020, 01:51 PM

tennis wrote on 13th August 2020, 12:42 PM:
Hi Everyone,
I know there has been a lot of drama over the past few days, and even though I rarely address it in posts like these I felt the need to offer my perspective.
I have NEVER seen Damen so upset over something in eight years. Remember, he is human too! I think we all owe him an apology.
There was definitely wrong on both sides, but remember that a lot of what was going on happened out of the public eye. Sled behaved immaturely. If she had been more respectful and calm when speaking to Damen none of this drama would have happened.
Put yourself in Damen's shoes. Even though he works full-time, he has spent the last 10 years spending hundreds of dollars to make this website for all of us. Yes, Damen historically is not the best at responding to mail and Discord messages. But that's because he singlehandedly has to fix all bugs and create new content for P3D, OldCP (including CZ, create, updates), Forums, Wiki, etc. Having patience is key. Even Chelsey and I wait days sometimes for a response. Please be patient!
It takes a lot to earn Damen's trust. It took Sled years and she rose to the very top of the ladder. This is not the first time where Sled messed up and did not handle it in a mature fashion. Remember the time she got banished from the South? Administrators are expected to behave more maturely and handle issues privately. I don't want to cause more drama about bringing up specifics, but I assure you that there was a lack of maturity and respect for Damen by Sled (which I know she is sorry for) that really upset him. Damen considered Sled a friend and gave her the benefit of talking to her on Discord, but then after she would completely disregard his feelings and made the drama worse. No hate towards Sled. I know she was just upset, but we must acknowledge the lack of maturity and lashing out that led to hate towards Damen.
It is never ok to gang up on someone, and that is what I saw happen to Damen. Again, folks thought they knew the whole story when in reality they knew a fraction of it. Please have some respect for the guy who works endlessly to make us new content and remember there are two sides to every story. If you have an issue, of course raise it, but please do so respectfully. The best way to get Damen to consider an idea is to talk to him about it in private, or by making a respectful forum post.
As I have said before, remember this is a game. Please remember that DSGHQ is not Damen's only job and to be respectful that he has other commitments. He gives as much as possible for this game, trust me.
Sled, I personally am asking you to accept your ban with dignity and come back refreshed and ready to rejoin the community. Please stop all of the negativity that I have been seeing on Discord. We all are so grateful for your help and friendship, I would hate to see it ruined by one issue.

That's nice and all, but stop painting Sled as some monstrous villain. She's more mature than most people, and she herself paid money for this game, and sacrificed lots of her time as well. -_-
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13th August 2020, 02:52 PM

Galadriel wrote on 13th August 2020, 01:51 PM:
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tennis wrote on 13th August 2020, 12:42 PM:
Hi Everyone,
I know there has been a lot of drama over the past few days, and even though I rarely address it in posts like these I felt the need to offer my perspective.
I have NEVER seen Damen so upset over something in eight years. Remember, he is human too! I think we all owe him an apology.
There was definitely wrong on both sides, but remember that a lot of what was going on happened out of the public eye. Sled behaved immaturely. If she had been more respectful and calm when speaking to Damen none of this drama would have happened.
Put yourself in Damen's shoes. Even though he works full-time, he has spent the last 10 years spending hundreds of dollars to make this website for all of us. Yes, Damen historically is not the best at responding to mail and Discord messages. But that's because he singlehandedly has to fix all bugs and create new content for P3D, OldCP (including CZ, create, updates), Forums, Wiki, etc. Having patience is key. Even Chelsey and I wait days sometimes for a response. Please be patient!
It takes a lot to earn Damen's trust. It took Sled years and she rose to the very top of the ladder. This is not the first time where Sled messed up and did not handle it in a mature fashion. Remember the time she got banished from the South? Administrators are expected to behave more maturely and handle issues privately. I don't want to cause more drama about bringing up specifics, but I assure you that there was a lack of maturity and respect for Damen by Sled (which I know she is sorry for) that really upset him. Damen considered Sled a friend and gave her the benefit of talking to her on Discord, but then after she would completely disregard his feelings and made the drama worse. No hate towards Sled. I know she was just upset, but we must acknowledge the lack of maturity and lashing out that led to hate towards Damen.
It is never ok to gang up on someone, and that is what I saw happen to Damen. Again, folks thought they knew the whole story when in reality they knew a fraction of it. Please have some respect for the guy who works endlessly to make us new content and remember there are two sides to every story. If you have an issue, of course raise it, but please do so respectfully. The best way to get Damen to consider an idea is to talk to him about it in private, or by making a respectful forum post.
As I have said before, remember this is a game. Please remember that DSGHQ is not Damen's only job and to be respectful that he has other commitments. He gives as much as possible for this game, trust me.
Sled, I personally am asking you to accept your ban with dignity and come back refreshed and ready to rejoin the community. Please stop all of the negativity that I have been seeing on Discord. We all are so grateful for your help and friendship, I would hate to see it ruined by one issue.
That's nice and all, but stop painting Sled as some monstrous villain. She's more mature than most people, and she herself paid money for this game, and sacrificed lots of her time as well. -_-

Yes! Sled has done a lot and the DSGHQ is 100% better off because of her. Very thankful for everything she has done, she is far from a villain.
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