Orbay wrote on 26th April 2021, 02:17 PM:

Thank you for taking the time to write this extensive post detailing what must be done to improve the game. I'll make some remarks about the key points in this post so people have an idea of what's going on behind the scenes:
1. Regarding the Warden situation
I completely agree with this, but I feel I must clear something up. Damen is technically the "warden" of the game, but admins have the authority to do what is needed without the need to ask Damen, as long as it's not abuse or something of the sort. This applies for the cz managers as well. This means we'll be add more changes to the game at a more frequent basis.
2. Regarding create requests
At the moment, excluding bots, there are no create requests that are inherently game breaking. All create sabers more or less have the same damage value, so it won't affect the fair nature we're striving to achieve.
3. Regarding the Empire
The Empire being removed is official, and it has been replaced with an adminocracy (oligarchy of admins). Though I'm not involved in the cz process, I believe that this will allow cz to take place in other islands, rather than the usual "bad guys trying to take over the South" trope. This supports what I said in point 1, about admins having more authority to do as needed.
4. Regarding crimezone
I actually really like the idea of having an official time for cz, and I've relayed this message to the cz managers, who seem to have liked it as well. Updates regarding this will be announced in the future.
5. Regarding the lack of communication
My and Rouge's dms on Discord are always open, so anyone can message us if needed. And regarding the Oldcp Discord server, the current Crime Office server currently serves the same function.
6. Regarding Presidency
Though I don't think Presidency will be happening anytime soon, I definitely agree that this game is lacking in certain regards. At the moment, admins are in charge of the user requests and implementing new features to the game, but we're planning to gather a roster that'll hopefully help us create new features for the game. We're always open to suggestions, so feel free to send me a message so we can discuss it together.
7. Regarding Moderators
I completely agree that mods should hold more responsibility, and rest assured that there'll be a stricter policy on moderator behavior.
However, I can't say the same for Head Mods owning a rank 5 DRAKE, or one moderator owning a rank 4 DRAKE.
Rank 4 is basically mod + /gif and /demote, and I don't see why a mod should have access to those commands.
A Head Mod's job is to keep a peaceful and positive environment within the staff team. This doesn't necessarily mean you have to implement new features to keep said environment. You can do your job well by helping resolve conflicts within the staff team when it arises. It may get boring, but that's the responsibility a Head Mod bears. Rank 5 is simply not needed in this case.
Can it be considered in the future? Maybe. But for now, it's simply not needed.
8. Regarding Database health and weapon damage
We are actually discussing a new default health for all users, because the current default health (7) has been outdated for far too long. The current idea is to make it so saber kills a regular person in 5-6 hits, rather than 2. Create weapons already do around the same damage as regular sabers, so that shouldn't really be an issue. I agree with the bot regulations, and it'll definitely be something to be discussed in the future.
I've taken several notes from your post, and I hope to implement some of these in future updates. A changelog will be released soon with new features added and intended for the game, so keep your eye out for that.

About the database health, so EVERYONE will have the same health or is that only when your account is first registered? Like will people still be buffed or everyone will just have that same health?

OldCPv16 has started on a slow start, with users slowly losing interest and no motivation to play.

The users of this community aren't patient at all, and they'll quit the game if nothing is going on.

Some of the ideas for this version of OldCP aren't all that great, and while it may sound good, it actually isn't.

Going through Damen's official proposals for OldCPv16, we see some questionable and major decisions that were made.


This here is the worst decision that could've been made. Damen, you are focused on a completely different game which needs to be monitored by you A LOT. You need to make updates, focus on new ideas for the game, and host the events needed. The idea of no warden is so questionable because you have such a busy schedule, and iOldCP was mainly popular due to the users running the game. It's fine for you to have control over the game, but a warden is NECESSARY. The admins can't constantly be going to you and waiting long hours for you to respond because it is delaying progress and slowly drifting users away. Appointing a warden is only making things easier for you. P3D won't die down with the activity of OldCP going up, as the P3D community and the OldCP communities are a lot different. Most P3D users don't play OldCP over P3D, and many OldCP users love P3D.


This idea probably won't work very well. OldCP has many create requests, and creating a balance is just scamming peoples' money. People bought their items for a reason, to have more power and have their own weapons. If you're nerfing their weapons to make things balanced, they won't be happy. Create has caused many issues which is why there was such an unbalanced game back in quarantine, and desperate users purchasing create requests to get even with their opponents.


This idea would never work on OldCP. OldCP is all about the empire, and what would CZ even be about? Crimezone needs a purpose, and what would be the goal? Evil always wanted to conquer the islands and the South, but if there's no empire, what are they even after? Also, Emperor Helper was such a huge role to have, and many users got the opportunity to get it due to resignations, which added more fun to the game. This also helped Damen when we couldn't catch up with the game as much, and administrators aren't always online to watch.



Now, we will talk about what causes OldCP's inactivity.


Crimezone doesn't have an official time, which causes users to be clueless on when it will occur. No one in this community is staying on OldCP for hours for a CHANCE of crimezone. I know it isn't ideal because crimezone is supposed to be a surprise, but a scheduled time for crimezone isn't that bad of an idea. If you think about it, you can't just start crimezone with two users on and a removed Crime Office server where you could ping for crimezone. Crimezone is all people play for, no one really cares about the nostalgia feeling and living in the old times of OldCP. People just want to fight and play through the OldCP Crimezone story and watch it unfold. Damen said CZ would happen more if users logged on, but I feel like everyone can agree with me when I saw that I'm not staying on OldCP all day waiting for crimezone, especially since sometimes it is short or for people with access to wisemothchambers only. Sometimes the crimezone is private, and its not fun for the users.


We need the OldCP discord back. The community got together very well, and I feel like there's literally no drama in this community anymore. Maybe sometimes it happens, but it can be handled easily with a communicative and well-connecting staff team. Discord staff needs to be chosen wisely, and not given to power hungry people. The reason drama unleashed was because the moderators weren't moderators because they wanted to be moderators, but they wanted to be a step-closer to Administrator. With our community now, I think we can do a way better job.


We need a President that can speak for the users. Someone who knows the users well and has the knowledge to know what the game requires for an active userbase is necessary. We need a "board" for different aspects of this game. Administrators should focus on actually running the game and fulfilling requests of the users, while the President finds new ways to make the game better and more active while implementing ideas. For this to happen, however, Damen needs to listen and fulfill our requests. We need a good owner who can listen to their users, and not be selfish and run the game they want it to be run. I understand SOMETIMES what the users want can be dramatic and a big change to the game, but something like transforms purchases going to the Imperial Bank should've been done a long time ago and is only helping the LOTB not run into bankruptcy within 2 months.



I never understood why moderators don’t hold more responsibility. I feel like the two most trusted and reliable moderators, which should be the Head Moderator and an experienced and active user, should have administrative DRAKE accounts. Head Moderator should indefinitely have a Rank 5 DRAKE IN 1-2 MONTHS SINCE PROMOTION when they’ve built enough trust to hold something like that. I say 1-2 months because the Head Moderator role shouldn’t be given out. It’s literally you being the role model and leader of the staff team. Why do you think people like me and Swirlie got bored of Head Moderator? Over time, when you’ve already established your staff team, it gets really boring and useless. I made a Moderator Guideline which tells the Moderators what they needed to do in every single scenario, already trained the staff, and already handled any issues that the Moderators had. Head Moderator needs more responsibility than having “a title” after doing everything that needs to be done, and it doesn’t take that long to accomplish your goals as Head Moderator. Give the Head Moderator a Rank 5 DRAKE when they’ve proven themselves, and allow one single Moderator to have a Rank 4 DRAKE so they can gain experience and learn from their higher-ups for whenever it is their time to administrate OldCP. I don’t see an issue with this. Allow the moderator into the Administrator’s group chat and let them learn and take notes for the future. First-time administrators always have problems with commands or just leading the game in general, and it’s not bad to gain experience. Allow Head Moderators to promote new moderators that are approved by the admins on their DRAKE accounts rather than waiting on an administrator to do it for them. Head Moderator gets boring!! When I was Head Moderator, I wanted a Rank 4 just to help at least a bit more because I felt like I was doing nothing but holding the rank. Moderators are active and know the users more than anyone, so this idea isn’t bad at all.




No weapon should do more than 50 to a non-op user. One hit weapons shouldn’t be a thing because it causes imbalance and drives users away because they can’t compete. 200 database for every user should be a thing as well. Just because a crime zone character said you can have 300 database doesn’t mean it is fair. Users need to be equally treated and it starts to get unfair if you’re a user who wants to partake in crimezone, but can’t due to your account not being strong enough to compete. A good proposal would be:

CLSB and similar: 25 per hit to non-op users. Can be buffed with icestone/firestone

Create Items: Whether a sword or saber, it costs the same amount of money. If you purchased a create, whether you imported your own weapon with a $5 create or Damen created it himself, it should do 35 damage because it took money to create. This game shouldn’t be about, “Who can spend the most money”, and it should be balanced and fair for everyone.

The Leads of Crimezone/Crimezone’s Favorites: 50 Damage Weapons is all they need. There is literally no need for a 100 damage weapon that shreds everyone’s health away in just a few hits. It causes people to relogin and fear for ones’ account which causes BOT WARS. Also causes wars to be boring and not fought anymore.

Bots: Spawn limit of 5 for each person. No need for more than that because there are users who are also fighting and many users with bots such as Miro, Akkar, Rouge, Orbay, and CZ characters like PIG in the past. If there are two people with bots in the same room, I think it is fair that each of them have a limit of two bots to spawn each at that time because people aren’t trying to watch a bot war in spawn. Bots shouldn’t do more than 30 damage and should have a database health of 100.


I feel like most people can agree with these ideas, but its all up to Damen on whether they’re passed or not. I’m not saying implement everything here, but take some of these into consideration because I feel like these ideas would make OldCP more enjoyable and fun, and create new things to look forward to.

Sleddy wrote on 26th April 2021, 10:06 AM:

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Jonathan1tt1 wrote on 26th April 2021, 03:24 AM:
NOWS MY TIME TO SHINE???????
wait crap this isnt oldcp WTH?!?!!

LOOOOLL! Penguin3D is fun tho!

I prefer OldCP personally but everyone has their own opinions! I can see why people like P3D but I don’t enjoy it as much.

NOWS MY TIME TO SHINE???????


wait crap this isnt oldcp WTH?!?!!

Is there no Det SGT or is that up to Det Insp

SecurityGuy wrote on 25th April 2021, 05:56 PM:

Rip Mance we should bring the search for Mance back

We shall spam his girlfriend once again

IN TRIBUTE TO MANCE, WE SHALL USE THIS IMAGE TO REPRESENT HIM ON THE FORUMS





LINK RIGHT HERE


https://i.imgur.com/mP26Cgj.png



OR YOU CAN USE MANCE IN BARBER SHOP





LINK HERE


https://i.imgur.com/caGmfwI.png

Damen wrote on 23rd April 2021, 06:04 PM:

Well, we need to have some mods and admins to start with. Less perhaps though.

I feel like you should choose a few people to start off with and work your way from there. Oldcp doesnt need 8 mods because it tends to be inactive when theres no CZ or events going on. A solid 2 admins and 4-6 mods is all you need atm and then you can start the rank-earning process. Would be fun to watch things come together again instead of the same people getting ranks and trying something new.

PAPACHIS wrote on 20th April 2021, 08:56 PM:

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Jonathan1tt1 wrote on 20th April 2021, 08:46 PM:
Slide some of that mod/lotb money to the knights???
Knights risk their whole accounts and have to train hard asl chilll
Dets also need more they literally have to keep up with the CZ in order to give you an accurate CZ summary

Def page as lowered bc oldcp died and then knights weren’t a thing but yeah they are both getting reasonable raises soon

makes sense, also read what I added and lmk what you think about it.

Slide some of that mod/lotb money to the knights???

Knights risk their whole accounts and have to train hard asl chilll

Dets also need more they literally have to keep up with the CZ in order to give you an accurate CZ summary

Also, whats the point of paying an extra 7 hours 10K more gold?!?!?

I'd agree if it was Head Moderator since only one person would get that extra 10k, but if 6 mods for example reach the 24 hour mark, thats 210K down the drain.

Miro wrote on 15th April 2021, 01:13 AM:

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MintWolf wrote on 10th April 2021, 02:11 PM:
he was a nonce and a racist LOL good riddance

how do people even dislike this?just proves what type of people you are
WAIIIIT I THOUGHT U TYPED THAT LOL IM SMACKED RN MY FAULT LOL
You good bro
Really disrespecting someone a few days after they died, very telling!

Can’t respect someone thats a predator and discriminates a group of people for no reason! Maybe think outside your privileged box and realize just cause someone is in power doesn’t exactly mean they’re such a great person. Don’t care if he’s the king, prince, queen... he died with these ideas on being racist and thought creeping on minors was okay. I’ll smoke his pack now

weend2014 wrote on 14th April 2021, 02:44 PM:

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Jonathan1tt1 wrote on 12th April 2021, 09:46 AM:
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MintWolf wrote on 10th April 2021, 02:11 PM:
he was a nonce and a racist LOL good riddance

how do people even dislike this?just proves what type of people you are
WAIIIIT I THOUGHT U TYPED THAT LOL IM SMACKED RN MY FAULT LOL

You good bro

Download it through the website. Its the play section and you download the setup.


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sorry i thought this was help & support because of the green background. since it’s snaildom, just use the link damen posted underneath my comment.

MintWolf wrote on 10th April 2021, 02:11 PM:

he was a nonce and a racist LOL good riddance

how do people even dislike this?just proves what type of people you are