10th January 2019
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Thoughts on changes to OldCP

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10th January 2019, 03:59 PM

Hey, I just thought I'd share my thoughs on Damens new changes to OldCP. Over all, I think what he's doing is for the best. Making death permanent again isn't entirely good but the pros outweigh the cons, killers can now be brought to justice, the value of accounts are increased, and it makes the game for interesting and exciting, it also makes the holy grail a valuable item again which is very cool. Secondly, I'm glad he finally realized that very few people can run the Empire, and even fewer can run it like Damen and Chelsey. I think Damen and Chelsey as the Emperor and Empress with infinite legacies is a good idea. I wouldn't mind seeing someone like Abushekaus or Hashir get a shot at Emperor but you never know. I'm also a fan of what he's doing with Sabers, Knights are pretty irrelevant right now considering everyone has OP weapons, magic, and Sabers. I think limiting that will make the Knights useful once again. Back in the day being Knight wasn't just some starter rank, it was something you actually had to work for and it made you look very good, now the Crimeoffice does everything and Knights are almost irrelevant. However, Idk about limiting the amount of armed unranked users. One thing I liked when Rocket was incharge was that users could easily get involved, and to get involved in Crimezone you need to have a weapon in order to defend yourself. Sure, certain users like Alatar shouldn't be armed, but I'm currently unranked and when I notice all my weapons are gone I'm not gonna be super happy because I worked for them. However, I think we need a saber ban or atleast greatly limit the number of them, and I think the best way to limit sabers would to just refund the create ones in exchange for another request, and for everyone to lose theirs.
Lets revert to a simpler time when the most powerful weapon didn't kill you in two hits.

Now, heres some suggestions I have to better improve the community.
1.) An original CZ
Incase you didn't know, the current Crimezone saga is ending and with that I wanna see some change. What change do I want to see? Simple, something new and original. Almost everything from Crimezone is ripped off and stolen from other peoples creations and it isn't a good look for the community. I'd be more than happy to help write or direct Crimezone, its one of those things I've always wanted to do, and I know plenty others who would also. I want the new saga of Crimezone to better involve the greater community, bring something new to the table, have a solid setting, and be easy to follow. The current Crimezone is all over the place and makes no sense at all unless you've read the Tolkien books.
2.) involve houses more
Houses don't play a major role in the game like they used to. I wanna see the return of house guards which was pretty fun and also my first ever rank. I think a crimezone based on house warfare would a fun and intertesting way to make Houses the main focus of the next Crimezone. Think about it like this, the game has many strongholds often un occupied or un used. Like Lannisbay, Drakehall, and many other locations that could be occupied by entire houses. Players could work together as a team and invade or defend their fort from an enemy house. Of course the Empire would be off limits as Damen and Chelsey own it. But other lands and isles could be points of interest for Houses such as Providence or the North.
The pros of this would be:
-More team work
-User involvement
-New ranks
-Fun
And a more user driven Crimezone.
3.) Less magic
I don't mind wizards having it, but I hate how so many people have all this op magic and powers.
4.) No more Sabers
5.) Bring back Medieval rooms, seriously it's an Empire and I love whenever we have a medieval party but it's always sad to see those rooms go.
6.) Less militaries
This ones controversial but I hate how Militaries, like Sabers make Knights seem so outdated. I think if instead of AK47s and Semi automatic pistols, we could have medieval militaries for big houses and arm them with Swords, Bows and make them less of a pain to kill.
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10th January 2019, 04:02 PM

One word: Yes
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10th January 2019, 04:48 PM

Agreed, Outstanding post Sir Ian
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10th January 2019, 05:41 PM

Agreed, great post.
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10th January 2019, 05:51 PM

Good man Ian
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10th January 2019, 09:14 PM

I love this post a lot, but can you shed some light on to how the CrimeZone sagas are copied? I'm just curious, what do you mean by that?
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10th January 2019, 09:51 PM

cheep wrote on 10th January 2019, 09:14 PM:
I love this post a lot, but can you shed some light on to how the CrimeZone sagas are copied? I'm just curious, what do you mean by that?

Almost everything from what I understand (which most of it is very confusing for most users to get) is from the Tolkien books, or Game of Thrones, also Star wars, and probably more that I haven't noticed.
I don't mind some easter eggs or certain things being based off of them. But I'd just rather see an original plot made by the community.
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10th January 2019, 10:18 PM

weend2014 wrote on 10th January 2019, 09:51 PM:
cheep wrote on 10th January 2019, 09:14 PM:
I love this post a lot, but can you shed some light on to how the CrimeZone sagas are copied? I'm just curious, what do you mean by that?
Almost everything from what I understand (which most of it is very confusing for most users to get) is from the Tolkien books, or Game of Thrones, also Star wars, and probably more that I haven't noticed.
I don't mind some easter eggs or certain things being based off of them. But I'd just rather see an original plot made by the community.
With shows like Game of Thrones, or even movie series like Star Wars, you get a fanbase along with it, and most of the users present in those fanbases reside here! We have had original ideas like the Disney War, Iceghost War I and II. We've also based many original characters on the island, so maybe not all are original but the majority is created with a sense of originality. I get what you're saying though, you'd like the users to come up with a very own story of their own. Personally, I love how Crimezone plays out, but that's just me!
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10th January 2019, 10:49 PM

cheep wrote on 10th January 2019, 10:18 PM:
weend2014 wrote on 10th January 2019, 09:51 PM:
cheep wrote on 10th January 2019, 09:14 PM:
I love this post a lot, but can you shed some light on to how the CrimeZone sagas are copied? I'm just curious, what do you mean by that?
Almost everything from what I understand (which most of it is very confusing for most users to get) is from the Tolkien books, or Game of Thrones, also Star wars, and probably more that I haven't noticed.
I don't mind some easter eggs or certain things being based off of them. But I'd just rather see an original plot made by the community.
With shows like Game of Thrones, or even movie series like Star Wars, you get a fanbase along with it, and most of the users present in those fanbases reside here! We have had original ideas like the Disney War, Iceghost War I and II. We've also based many original characters on the island, so maybe not all are original but the majority is created with a sense of originality. I get what you're saying though, you'd like the users to come up with a very own story of their own. Personally, I love how Crimezone plays out, but that's just me!

Thats cool but most people I've talked to wanna see something original, or at the very least a solid plot and something thats easy to follow. Because only people I know who know how to sum it up are Gamer and Fable, and I still dont understand it after having them sum it up like 3 times, could just be me though.
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11th January 2019, 02:28 PM

the wizard rank is stupid and should be deleted
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11th January 2019, 04:59 PM

AudreyGalx wrote on 11th January 2019, 02:28 PM:
the wizard rank is stupid and should be deleted

I dont mind them but they dont do anything useful
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12th January 2019, 11:08 PM

Excellent idea. I loved the original crimezone, the Disney War, Iceghosts, Icechildren and all that stuff, honestly, I miss the originality of that crimezone. The influence of GOT, Tolkien and Star Wars is very evident, it seems quite confusing sometimes due to the complexity of each universe (i.e GOT has its own plot, and so does Star Wars or LOTR as well, combining such complex plots is confusing). Furthermore, users are not always involved with cz and most of them barely understand it.
Great suggestions, I hope that soon we can enjoy a new and original crimezone.
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13th January 2019, 12:41 AM

CoolLloyd wrote on 12th January 2019, 11:08 PM:
Excellent idea. I loved the original crimezone, the Disney War, Iceghosts, Icechildren and all that stuff, honestly, I miss the originality of that crimezone. The influence of GOT, Tolkien and Star Wars is very evident, it seems quite confusing sometimes due to the complexity of each universe (i.e GOT has its own plot, and so does Star Wars or LOTR as well, combining such complex plots is confusing). Furthermore, users are not always involved with cz and most of them barely understand it.
Great suggestions, I hope that soon we can enjoy a new and original crimezone.

Love the feed back man, the original crime zone had a lot of charm and it was more user driven.
The key ingredients to a good Crimezone is user involvement, originality, and a solid and easy to follow plot. I.e the disney war. (Disney is evil, and want to close OldCP by killing everyone)
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13th January 2019, 11:05 AM

weend2014 wrote on 13th January 2019, 12:41 AM:
CoolLloyd wrote on 12th January 2019, 11:08 PM:
Excellent idea. I loved the original crimezone, the Disney War, Iceghosts, Icechildren and all that stuff, honestly, I miss the originality of that crimezone. The influence of GOT, Tolkien and Star Wars is very evident, it seems quite confusing sometimes due to the complexity of each universe (i.e GOT has its own plot, and so does Star Wars or LOTR as well, combining such complex plots is confusing). Furthermore, users are not always involved with cz and most of them barely understand it.
Great suggestions, I hope that soon we can enjoy a new and original crimezone.
Love the feed back man, the original crime zone had a lot of charm and it was more user driven.
The key ingredients to a good Crimezone is user involvement, originality, and a solid and easy to follow plot. I.e the disney war. (Disney is evil, and want to close OldCP by killing everyone)

Agreed. Crimezone should follow that old design principle, the KISS principle: keep it simple, stupid. Simplicity and authenticity are the basis of everything.
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