10th April 2020
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10th April 2020, 11:33 PM

I'm going to make this short, sweet, and to the point.

1. Why is Damen god?

2. Community Values are just a simple way for the owners of the site to make up random new rules at any time they please based on a certain case.

3. The game is a mess of unbalanced combat.

4. Why have a jail if you're just going to ban or kick?

5. Pay to win isn't fun, even for the people paying.

6. The Empire is not an Empire. It is far from an Empire. It is a religion. The Emperor never dies, and even if he does, someone takes his place. And even if you kill them? Banned. Ipbanned. How dare you play the game I created.

7. The weapons system is stupid. It'd be way more fun if it was simply people with normal health battling it out with normal swords, and occasionally, WITH IN GAME PURCHASE, stronger weapons. I should not have to beg an admin to get a weapon.

8. In a game where death is so common, death should not be permanent.

9. It isn't "crimezone". It's poorly structured roleplay.

10. Why do people like Frogs get multiple chances but people who haven't done things NEARLY as worse are punished much harder? (This is not a strike at Frogs as a person, and it isn't his fault. It's the administration's fault.)

11. The forums is a controlled dictatorship. You will be censored for just about anything you say negatively, and if you give any form of criticism, you will just be shut down.

12. The drama rule is stupid. Why does it exist? You're going to have drama. Don't try and stop it. The only time you should ever stop drama is if it goes too far. Dancebear's case is a perfect case for when it goes too far.

Damen is not a bad guy. I like him. I wouldn't pay him money if I didn't. I love this game. All I'm saying is exactly what's be said, and probably repeating myself. I'm sure this probably has plenty of flaws, and I'm completely open to listen to your ideas or criticisms of the post.
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+1 by Xvoid, kace, iblue, turquito10 and 3 others, -1 by Damen


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11th April 2020, 12:06 AM

1. Hes not.

2. Community values are intended to make the community a friendly and warm place for people. It keeps it from becoming a toxic cesspool. I mean, its already toxic sometimes but it could be a lot worse than what it is. Its a standard to hold people to and I don't think that valuing peace, mercy, and forgiveness are bad values to have, nor is it really too much to ask for in a person.

3. Fair enough.

4. People go to jail when they're attacking. This keeps innocent people from being killed. It also works if someone is breaking rules (like cussing, bullying, and being inapp) while there are no mods on. The knights can just arrest to keep them out of public view until a moderator can deal with them.

5. In my experience, OldCp isn't pay to win. Its just work and random luck to get involved in cz and ranks.

6. We tried OldCp with no Empire (iOldCp), it failed miserably three times even though respected users ran it (Twice under Sg, Once under Brit). Why should OldCp fall into that same track? People complain less about the Empire when Damen is Emperor anyway.

7. Don't abuse your weapons and you wouldn't have a problem with our weapons system. People dont always want to be attacked and killed on OldCp. There are some people who play the game just to chill with their friends rather than participate in fighting and getting killed.

8. I mean, you help with the appeal system. Without permanent death, people have nothing to lose. Which makes the game more chaotic.

9. Its not that horrible if you ignore the trash acting of Myfury and Myvenge. There does need to be a stronger story though.

10. Agreed.

11. Not really.

12. If we allowed a lot of drama around here, everyone would quit. It'd be toxic. No one really intervenes unless it is excessive or really uncalled for. We want to create a welcoming community rather than one that chases people out.
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+1 by zenny, kensey, Damen and Julianhak

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11th April 2020, 12:23 AM

Loki wrote on 11th April 2020, 12:06 AM:
1. Hes not.
2. Community values are intended to make the community a friendly and warm place for people. It keeps it from becoming a toxic cesspool. I mean, its already toxic sometimes but it could be a lot worse than what it is. Its a standard to hold people to and I don't think that valuing peace, mercy, and forgiveness are bad values to have, nor is it really too much to ask for in a person.
3. Fair enough.
4. People go to jail when they're attacking. This keeps innocent people from being killed. It also works if someone is breaking rules (like cussing, bullying, and being inapp) while there are no mods on. The knights can just arrest to keep them out of public view until a moderator can deal with them.
5. In my experience, OldCp isn't pay to win. Its just work and random luck to get involved in cz and ranks.
6. We tried OldCp with no Empire (iOldCp), it failed miserably three times even though respected users ran it (Twice under Sg, Once under Brit). Why should OldCp fall into that same track? People complain less about the Empire when Damen is Emperor anyway.
7. Don't abuse your weapons and you wouldn't have a problem with our weapons system. People dont always want to be attacked and killed on OldCp. There are some people who play the game just to chill with their friends rather than participate in fighting and getting killed.
8. I mean, you help with the appeal system. Without permanent death, people have nothing to lose. Which makes the game more chaotic.
9. Its not that horrible if you ignore the trash acting of Myfury and Myvenge. There does need to be a stronger story though.
10. Agreed.
11. Not really.
12. If we allowed a lot of drama around here, everyone would quit. It'd be toxic. No one really intervenes unless it is excessive or really uncalled for. We want to create a welcoming community rather than one that chases people out.

1. He is worshipped. If you dare go against him he will erase every trace of you. He personally killed a person for saying a bad word using the database. He broke my accounts for attacking him. He's god.

2. You know what would fix the toxicity? HAVING ACTUAL RULES; EASY, PLAIN, AND SIMPLE, TO READ. Also, "TOXICITY" EXISTS EVERYWHERE. There is no way to GET RID OF IT.

4. Innocents shouldn't be a problem. Also, VERY RARELY have I seen this used, in fact, MORE INNOCENTS PROBABLY DIE IN THE JAIL BECAUSE THEY WANTED TO WATCH.

5. Work and random luck - you either beg for 3 months or spend $15. That's pay to win if you ask me.

6. iOldCP was not "Oldcp with no Empire." There was very much an Empire. IT WAS WORSE THAN THE EMPIRE WE HAVE IN OLDCP. IT WAS AN EXACT COPY OF OLDCP BUT WORSE.

7. Weapon abuse is a stupid term and is honestly just retarded. Take that as you will.

8. Have you ever considered that maybe a more chaotic game is more fun? Something similar to 2b2t in Club Penguin would be a feat.

11. Fair, I think I went a bit overboard on that point.

12. You don't have to "allow drama". Have you noticed that what you just described is exactly what is happening? This community would chase any new user out because they don't want to spend 3 months to have fun. If a new user joins, they will do NOTHING. And probably won't do anything for a long time. The community is going downhill already.
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11th April 2020, 02:19 PM

13. why do we have to wait 5 days to be revived if our death was unfair
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+1 by kensey and Silas


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11th April 2020, 02:59 PM

Im not god Alatar. And I only erase people when they're repeatedly abusing like you do. Most of the time I put up with it.
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+1 by Loki, Flame, Dice and door, -1 by Carly

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