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Trial of Flame - Court Report
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28th June 2020, 07:06 PM
Court Report for the Trial of Flame
Defendant: FlameDefendant’s Attorney: N/A
Date of Case: 6/28/2020
Time of Hearing: 6:30 PM EST/11:30 PM GMT
Judge: Empress Helper Sled
Sentenced for: Attacking Orbay in popular and hurting others
Court Report
Sled: Flame is accused of attempted murder. He used his lightning in the town to hurt many innocents. This was while the town was flooded, before George the Plumber saved us all. Anyway, this is a very serious crime. I am angered that this happened. Do I have any witnesses?
Flame: I did indeed strike Orbay with lightning. This was after he said he was going to kill me. For me reacting to MOUTH in self defence.
Sled: Do you have anything to say for yourself?
Flame: Fortunately for all of us, no one was killed.
Sled: Why did you try to kill Orbay?
Flame: He said he was going to kill me after I had struck “MOUTH” on a different account.
Sled: But he didn’t! Baffed what did you see?
Baffed: Flame went offline for like 2 seconds and Orbay said “If Flame comes back I’ll attack him.” Then Flame came back and attacked MOUTH or idk it was flooded so I couldn’t see. Banter or not I’m just quoting.
Sled: thank you Baffed. We appreciate you. Loki give me some wisdom.
Loki: Well, this is kind of complex. Flame was threatened and as a person would, they’d be likely to defend themselves from perceived threats.
Sled: It is another to threaten and another to act.
Loki: We do not know, though. Orbay may have attacked first if Flame had done nothing. Flame hasn’t killed anyone.
Sled: If Orbay has attacked he would be standing here for Flame has done nothing. But now he has.
Loki: Flame acted preemptively.
Wilf: It’s true that Cthuhlu was on that day?
Sled: Yes.
Wilf: Orbay controls Cthulhu. Therefore it counts as a weapon.
Sled: Do you think Flame should be pardoned?
Wilf: Did you hit users attacking Orbay?
Flame: Yes I did.
Wilf: And has Cthuhlu not done the same in the past?
Sled: as we know, lightning has weird range.
Wilf: I say pardon, Sled.
Sled: Wilf, you are of Drake blood. You have mercy on Flame?
Wilf: I will pardon Flame.
Sled: Then I will listen to you and Loki. Loki, do you think he should be pardoned?
Loki: Yes, he couldn’t have done it differently.We’d probably be trying [Orbay].
Verdict
Pardoned. Orbay sent Cthulu to attack Flame, Flame acted in self-defense. He is to be more careful with lightning.
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29th June 2020, 07:03 AM
I hate to break it to Sled, but,
(almost) Everything Flame, Wilf and Loki said are false.
1) The true series of events
I will now give the true series of events as to what happened:
1) I was talking to MOUTH in flooded town, during which Flame logged on and turned on his flames, despite being told by MOUTH multiple times to turn it off. He did it ON PURPOSE as a THREAT. He also said phrases like "I'll extinguish your seas", which was also a clear threat to MOUTH.
2) Upon being threatened back by MOUTH, Flame then logged off his main, got on an alt, and proceeded to attack MOUTH (I don't know if he killed him, but seeing as MOUTH didn't come back after that, I'd say yeah, he did).
3) After that, I said I'd kill Flame where he stands, due to the fact that he had attacked someone in /popular, which meant he was now KOS on South, after which he attacked me and the entire room with lightning.
My proof? I was there, seeing as I was the one who was attacked. And, obviously, cinema footage.
2) "Orbay threatened Flame, so he acted in self-defense"
Yes, I did threaten Flame, but Flame of all people should know that threats are empty unless there's an action to back them up, seeing as he's threatened to kill Orome and his associates several times.
So basically Flame, you're a hypocrite.
Not to mention that his "self-defense" excuse makes no sense because he's OP. If I were to actually attack him, it would have been impossible for me to kill him without him noticing and relogging.
If Flame was really interested in his own safety, he would have waited to see if I would actually attack him. In that case, I would have been at fault for attacking first, and I would have been standing trial.
So not only did Flame attack first, he also threatened first.
3) "Orbay controlled Cthulhu as a weapon"
News flash: I don't control Cthulhu. I have no control over what he does, so for Wilf to say "Orbay controls Cthulhu, so it's a weapon" is, in my opinion, extremely ignorant and senseless.
Oh, and also, Cthulhu being there is not a valid excuse for Flame to attack either, seeing as Cthulhu didn't attack him.
4) Other quotes that show how ridiculous the trial was:
Flame basically admitting attacking MOUTH in /popular (a room filled with innocents), which for some reason, was completely ignored when giving the verdict.
Loki basically accusing me of a crime I didn't commit, also defending someone who was attacking innocents. Though I expected nothing different from the all-wise Loki.
Here we see Wilf using the "if he did it, so can Flame" logic, which you can probably tell is the worst method to justify someone's actions. A disappointing sight.
Surely he couldn't have waited to see if I would actually attack, since he's OP and can withstand the attack. Flawless logic by the all-wise Loki once again.
Me being accused of controlling Cthulhu to attack Flame, when:
1) Cthulhu didn't even attack Flame
2) I clearly can't control Cthulhu
5) My thoughts about the trial
The "trial" we all witnessed was basically a group effort by Flame, Loki and Wilf to make me look bad for being attacked and following the rules when it came to retaliation. I didn't even attack Flame in /popular after he attacked me. I attacked him in /jail, so I didn't break ANY rules.
The fact that Wilf was allowed to "pardon" Flame, despite the Criminal Code clearly stating that Attempted Murder means execution, is the biggest blow to the OldCP justice system that I have ever seen. Maybe you should make an actual verdict instead of letting the Drake Prince forgive everyone.
Direct quote from Damen: "Attempted Murder will end with execution. I'll get Chelsey to change it. Eye for an eye."
And I agree. The fact that Flame failed to kill me or an innocent doesn't make the crime any less severe.
I demand a re-trial for this poorly executed excuse of a trial, and this time, get actual witnesses who saw the events unfold (like Rouge and Harry) and get wisdom from someone who actually has any proper wisdom to give, instead of those who talk with untruthful assumptions and a Drake Prince that has a knack for forgiving everyone and everything.
(almost) Everything Flame, Wilf and Loki said are false.
1) The true series of events
I will now give the true series of events as to what happened:
1) I was talking to MOUTH in flooded town, during which Flame logged on and turned on his flames, despite being told by MOUTH multiple times to turn it off. He did it ON PURPOSE as a THREAT. He also said phrases like "I'll extinguish your seas", which was also a clear threat to MOUTH.
2) Upon being threatened back by MOUTH, Flame then logged off his main, got on an alt, and proceeded to attack MOUTH (I don't know if he killed him, but seeing as MOUTH didn't come back after that, I'd say yeah, he did).
3) After that, I said I'd kill Flame where he stands, due to the fact that he had attacked someone in /popular, which meant he was now KOS on South, after which he attacked me and the entire room with lightning.
My proof? I was there, seeing as I was the one who was attacked. And, obviously, cinema footage.
2) "Orbay threatened Flame, so he acted in self-defense"
Yes, I did threaten Flame, but Flame of all people should know that threats are empty unless there's an action to back them up, seeing as he's threatened to kill Orome and his associates several times.
So basically Flame, you're a hypocrite.
Not to mention that his "self-defense" excuse makes no sense because he's OP. If I were to actually attack him, it would have been impossible for me to kill him without him noticing and relogging.
If Flame was really interested in his own safety, he would have waited to see if I would actually attack him. In that case, I would have been at fault for attacking first, and I would have been standing trial.
So not only did Flame attack first, he also threatened first.
3) "Orbay controlled Cthulhu as a weapon"
News flash: I don't control Cthulhu. I have no control over what he does, so for Wilf to say "Orbay controls Cthulhu, so it's a weapon" is, in my opinion, extremely ignorant and senseless.
Oh, and also, Cthulhu being there is not a valid excuse for Flame to attack either, seeing as Cthulhu didn't attack him.
4) Other quotes that show how ridiculous the trial was:
Quote:
Flame: He said he was going to kill me after I had struck “MOUTH” on a different account.
Quote:
Loki: We do not know, though. Orbay may have attacked first if Flame had done nothing. Flame hasn’t killed anyone.
Quote:
Wilf: Did you hit users attacking Orbay?
Flame: Yes I did.
Wilf: And has Cthuhlu not done the same in the past?
Flame: Yes I did.
Wilf: And has Cthuhlu not done the same in the past?
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Loki: Yes, he couldn’t have done it differently.We’d probably be trying [Orbay].
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Verdict
Pardoned. Orbay sent Cthulu to attack Flame, Flame acted in self-defense.
Pardoned. Orbay sent Cthulu to attack Flame, Flame acted in self-defense.
1) Cthulhu didn't even attack Flame
2) I clearly can't control Cthulhu
5) My thoughts about the trial
The "trial" we all witnessed was basically a group effort by Flame, Loki and Wilf to make me look bad for being attacked and following the rules when it came to retaliation. I didn't even attack Flame in /popular after he attacked me. I attacked him in /jail, so I didn't break ANY rules.
The fact that Wilf was allowed to "pardon" Flame, despite the Criminal Code clearly stating that Attempted Murder means execution, is the biggest blow to the OldCP justice system that I have ever seen. Maybe you should make an actual verdict instead of letting the Drake Prince forgive everyone.
Direct quote from Damen: "Attempted Murder will end with execution. I'll get Chelsey to change it. Eye for an eye."
And I agree. The fact that Flame failed to kill me or an innocent doesn't make the crime any less severe.
I demand a re-trial for this poorly executed excuse of a trial, and this time, get actual witnesses who saw the events unfold (like Rouge and Harry) and get wisdom from someone who actually has any proper wisdom to give, instead of those who talk with untruthful assumptions and a Drake Prince that has a knack for forgiving everyone and everything.
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29th June 2020, 07:44 AM
The Criminal Code states that attempted murder is punishable by execution. The fact Sled let him off because of Cthulhu (which I think we all should know is beyond control of anyone), is ridiculous. Retrial this man.
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29th June 2020, 09:08 AM
I actually told wilf that when the situation happened, orbay was no longer lord of the sea and that it was Lex. After explained the truth to wilf im pretty sure his judgment was invalid. Even tho it always was.
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29th June 2020, 09:31 AM
Orbay wrote on 29th June 2020, 07:03 AM:
I hate to break it to Sled, but,
(almost) Everything Flame, Wilf and Loki said are false.
1) The true series of events
I will now give the true series of events as to what happened:
1) I was talking to MOUTH in flooded town, during which Flame logged on and turned on his flames, despite being told by MOUTH multiple times to turn it off. He did it ON PURPOSE as a THREAT. He also said phrases like "I'll extinguish your seas", which was also a clear threat to MOUTH.
2) Upon being threatened back by MOUTH, Flame then logged off his main, got on an alt, and proceeded to attack MOUTH (I don't know if he killed him, but seeing as MOUTH didn't come back after that, I'd say yeah, he did).
3) After that, I said I'd kill Flame where he stands, due to the fact that he had attacked someone in /popular, which meant he was now KOS on South, after which he attacked me and the entire room with lightning.
My proof? I was there, seeing as I was the one who was attacked. And, obviously, cinema footage.
2) "Orbay threatened Flame, so he acted in self-defense"
Yes, I did threaten Flame, but Flame of all people should know that threats are empty unless there's an action to back them up, seeing as he's threatened to kill Orome and his associates several times.
So basically Flame, you're a hypocrite.
Not to mention that his "self-defense" excuse makes no sense because he's OP. If I were to actually attack him, it would have been impossible for me to kill him without him noticing and relogging.
If Flame was really interested in his own safety, he would have waited to see if I would actually attack him. In that case, I would have been at fault for attacking first, and I would have been standing trial.
So not only did Flame attack first, he also threatened first.
3) "Orbay controlled Cthulhu as a weapon"
News flash: I don't control Cthulhu. I have no control over what he does, so for Wilf to say "Orbay controls Cthulhu, so it's a weapon" is, in my opinion, extremely ignorant and senseless.
Oh, and also, Cthulhu being there is not a valid excuse for Flame to attack either, seeing as Cthulhu didn't attack him.
4) Other quotes that show how ridiculous the trial was:
Flame basically admitting attacking MOUTH in /popular (a room filled with innocents), which for some reason, was completely ignored when giving the verdict.
Quote:
Loki: We do not know, though. Orbay may have attacked first if Flame had done nothing. Flame hasn’t killed anyone.
Loki basically accusing me of a crime I didn't commit, also defending someone who was attacking innocents. Though I expected nothing different from the all-wise Loki.
Quote:
Wilf: Did you hit users attacking Orbay?
Flame: Yes I did.
Wilf: And has Cthuhlu not done the same in the past?
Here we see Wilf using the "if he did it, so can Flame" logic, which you can probably tell is the worst method to justify someone's actions. A disappointing sight.
Quote:
Loki: Yes, he couldn’t have done it differently.We’d probably be trying [Orbay].
Surely he couldn't have waited to see if I would actually attack, since he's OP and can withstand the attack. Flawless logic by the all-wise Loki once again.
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Verdict
Pardoned. Orbay sent Cthulu to attack Flame, Flame acted in self-defense.
Me being accused of controlling Cthulhu to attack Flame, when:
1) Cthulhu didn't even attack Flame
2) I clearly can't control Cthulhu
5) My thoughts about the trial
The "trial" we all witnessed was basically a group effort by Flame, Loki and Wilf to make me look bad for being attacked and following the rules when it came to retaliation. I didn't even attack Flame in /popular after he attacked me. I attacked him in /jail, so I didn't break ANY rules.
The fact that Wilf was allowed to "pardon" Flame, despite the Criminal Code clearly stating that Attempted Murder means execution, is the biggest blow to the OldCP justice system that I have ever seen. Maybe you should make an actual verdict instead of letting the Drake Prince forgive everyone.
Direct quote from Damen: "Attempted Murder will end with execution. I'll get Chelsey to change it. Eye for an eye."
And I agree. The fact that Flame failed to kill me or an innocent doesn't make the crime any less severe.
I demand a re-trial for this poorly executed excuse of a trial, and this time, get actual witnesses who saw the events unfold (like Rouge and Harry) and get wisdom from someone who actually has any proper wisdom to give, instead of those who talk with untruthful assumptions and a Drake Prince that has a knack for forgiving everyone and everything.
(almost) Everything Flame, Wilf and Loki said are false.
1) The true series of events
I will now give the true series of events as to what happened:
1) I was talking to MOUTH in flooded town, during which Flame logged on and turned on his flames, despite being told by MOUTH multiple times to turn it off. He did it ON PURPOSE as a THREAT. He also said phrases like "I'll extinguish your seas", which was also a clear threat to MOUTH.
2) Upon being threatened back by MOUTH, Flame then logged off his main, got on an alt, and proceeded to attack MOUTH (I don't know if he killed him, but seeing as MOUTH didn't come back after that, I'd say yeah, he did).
3) After that, I said I'd kill Flame where he stands, due to the fact that he had attacked someone in /popular, which meant he was now KOS on South, after which he attacked me and the entire room with lightning.
My proof? I was there, seeing as I was the one who was attacked. And, obviously, cinema footage.
2) "Orbay threatened Flame, so he acted in self-defense"
Yes, I did threaten Flame, but Flame of all people should know that threats are empty unless there's an action to back them up, seeing as he's threatened to kill Orome and his associates several times.
So basically Flame, you're a hypocrite.
Not to mention that his "self-defense" excuse makes no sense because he's OP. If I were to actually attack him, it would have been impossible for me to kill him without him noticing and relogging.
If Flame was really interested in his own safety, he would have waited to see if I would actually attack him. In that case, I would have been at fault for attacking first, and I would have been standing trial.
So not only did Flame attack first, he also threatened first.
3) "Orbay controlled Cthulhu as a weapon"
News flash: I don't control Cthulhu. I have no control over what he does, so for Wilf to say "Orbay controls Cthulhu, so it's a weapon" is, in my opinion, extremely ignorant and senseless.
Oh, and also, Cthulhu being there is not a valid excuse for Flame to attack either, seeing as Cthulhu didn't attack him.
4) Other quotes that show how ridiculous the trial was:
Quote:
Quote:
Flame: He said he was going to kill me after I had struck “MOUTH” on a different account.
Flame: He said he was going to kill me after I had struck “MOUTH” on a different account.
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Loki: We do not know, though. Orbay may have attacked first if Flame had done nothing. Flame hasn’t killed anyone.
Loki basically accusing me of a crime I didn't commit, also defending someone who was attacking innocents. Though I expected nothing different from the all-wise Loki.
Quote:
Wilf: Did you hit users attacking Orbay?
Flame: Yes I did.
Wilf: And has Cthuhlu not done the same in the past?
Here we see Wilf using the "if he did it, so can Flame" logic, which you can probably tell is the worst method to justify someone's actions. A disappointing sight.
Quote:
Loki: Yes, he couldn’t have done it differently.We’d probably be trying [Orbay].
Surely he couldn't have waited to see if I would actually attack, since he's OP and can withstand the attack. Flawless logic by the all-wise Loki once again.
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Verdict
Pardoned. Orbay sent Cthulu to attack Flame, Flame acted in self-defense.
Me being accused of controlling Cthulhu to attack Flame, when:
1) Cthulhu didn't even attack Flame
2) I clearly can't control Cthulhu
5) My thoughts about the trial
The "trial" we all witnessed was basically a group effort by Flame, Loki and Wilf to make me look bad for being attacked and following the rules when it came to retaliation. I didn't even attack Flame in /popular after he attacked me. I attacked him in /jail, so I didn't break ANY rules.
The fact that Wilf was allowed to "pardon" Flame, despite the Criminal Code clearly stating that Attempted Murder means execution, is the biggest blow to the OldCP justice system that I have ever seen. Maybe you should make an actual verdict instead of letting the Drake Prince forgive everyone.
Direct quote from Damen: "Attempted Murder will end with execution. I'll get Chelsey to change it. Eye for an eye."
And I agree. The fact that Flame failed to kill me or an innocent doesn't make the crime any less severe.
I demand a re-trial for this poorly executed excuse of a trial, and this time, get actual witnesses who saw the events unfold (like Rouge and Harry) and get wisdom from someone who actually has any proper wisdom to give, instead of those who talk with untruthful assumptions and a Drake Prince that has a knack for forgiving everyone and everything.
But you know what’s funny? People complain when someone gets executed and now someone gets pardoned and you’re still complaining.
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29th June 2020, 11:35 AM
Loki wrote on 29th June 2020, 09:31 AM:
Orbay wrote on 29th June 2020, 07:03 AM:
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Orbay I did not view what had happened. I based my wisdom off what people said at the trial. I did not accuse you of committing any crimes. Sorry I’m not a perfect human who has time to find things on cinema all the time to be a perfect wise at a trial on a penguin game. You threatened flame. I don’t know if you were going to attack him first or not. Sometimes people say things and act on their words, sometimes people give empty threats. Yes, Flame acted preemptively and he shouldn’t have done that. But I don’t think that’s worthy of an execution. After all, I acted preemptively when I mauled PIG on an unarmed account and I wasn’t executed.
But you know what’s funny? People complain when someone gets executed and now someone gets pardoned and you’re still complaining.
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Orbay I did not view what had happened. I based my wisdom off what people said at the trial. I did not accuse you of committing any crimes. Sorry I’m not a perfect human who has time to find things on cinema all the time to be a perfect wise at a trial on a penguin game. You threatened flame. I don’t know if you were going to attack him first or not. Sometimes people say things and act on their words, sometimes people give empty threats. Yes, Flame acted preemptively and he shouldn’t have done that. But I don’t think that’s worthy of an execution. After all, I acted preemptively when I mauled PIG on an unarmed account and I wasn’t executed.
But you know what’s funny? People complain when someone gets executed and now someone gets pardoned and you’re still complaining.
Did you even read what you wrote? Allow me to help you re-read it.
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Orbay I did not view what had happened. I based my wisdom off what people said at the trial. I did not accuse you of committing any crimes.
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Sorry I’m not a perfect human who has time to find things on cinema all the time to be a perfect wise at a trial on a penguin game.
What you did wasn't a case of "I'm not perfect". You made a mistake. And a big one at that. And instead of owning up to it and apologizing, you said the exact same sentence as you did every other time you messed up.
If OldCP is "just a penguin game" for you, then it shouldn't have been so hard for you to apologize, should it?
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You threatened flame.
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Sometimes people say things and act on their words, sometimes people give empty threats.
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Yes, Flame acted preemptively and he shouldn’t have done that. But I don’t think that’s worthy of an execution. After all, I acted preemptively when I mauled PIG on an unarmed account and I wasn’t executed.
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But you know what’s funny? People complain when someone gets executed and now someone gets pardoned and you’re still complaining.
You know what's actually funny? I was ready to forgive you had you just apologized, but seeing now that you're clearly too prideful to own up to your mistakes and apologize, I can say that you're either:
1) A hypocrite
2) Incredibly biased towards Flame
3) Lacking the ability to see proper proof and acknowledge it facts
Or, my personal opinion:
4) All of the above
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29th June 2020, 12:41 PM
Orbay wrote on 29th June 2020, 07:03 AM:
I hate to break it to Sled, but,
(almost) Everything Flame, Wilf and Loki said are false.
1) The true series of events
I will now give the true series of events as to what happened:
1) I was talking to MOUTH in flooded town, during which Flame logged on and turned on his flames, despite being told by MOUTH multiple times to turn it off. He did it ON PURPOSE as a THREAT. He also said phrases like "I'll extinguish your seas", which was also a clear threat to MOUTH.
2) Upon being threatened back by MOUTH, Flame then logged off his main, got on an alt, and proceeded to attack MOUTH (I don't know if he killed him, but seeing as MOUTH didn't come back after that, I'd say yeah, he did).
3) After that, I said I'd kill Flame where he stands, due to the fact that he had attacked someone in /popular, which meant he was now KOS on South, after which he attacked me and the entire room with lightning.
My proof? I was there, seeing as I was the one who was attacked. And, obviously, cinema footage.
2) "Orbay threatened Flame, so he acted in self-defense"
Yes, I did threaten Flame, but Flame of all people should know that threats are empty unless there's an action to back them up, seeing as he's threatened to kill Orome and his associates several times.
So basically Flame, you're a hypocrite.
Not to mention that his "self-defense" excuse makes no sense because he's OP. If I were to actually attack him, it would have been impossible for me to kill him without him noticing and relogging.
If Flame was really interested in his own safety, he would have waited to see if I would actually attack him. In that case, I would have been at fault for attacking first, and I would have been standing trial.
So not only did Flame attack first, he also threatened first.
3) "Orbay controlled Cthulhu as a weapon"
News flash: I don't control Cthulhu. I have no control over what he does, so for Wilf to say "Orbay controls Cthulhu, so it's a weapon" is, in my opinion, extremely ignorant and senseless.
Oh, and also, Cthulhu being there is not a valid excuse for Flame to attack either, seeing as Cthulhu didn't attack him.
4) Other quotes that show how ridiculous the trial was:
Flame basically admitting attacking MOUTH in /popular (a room filled with innocents), which for some reason, was completely ignored when giving the verdict.
Quote:
Loki: We do not know, though. Orbay may have attacked first if Flame had done nothing. Flame hasn’t killed anyone.
Loki basically accusing me of a crime I didn't commit, also defending someone who was attacking innocents. Though I expected nothing different from the all-wise Loki.
Quote:
Wilf: Did you hit users attacking Orbay?
Flame: Yes I did.
Wilf: And has Cthuhlu not done the same in the past?
Here we see Wilf using the "if he did it, so can Flame" logic, which you can probably tell is the worst method to justify someone's actions. A disappointing sight.
Quote:
Loki: Yes, he couldn’t have done it differently.We’d probably be trying [Orbay].
Surely he couldn't have waited to see if I would actually attack, since he's OP and can withstand the attack. Flawless logic by the all-wise Loki once again.
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Verdict
Pardoned. Orbay sent Cthulu to attack Flame, Flame acted in self-defense.
Me being accused of controlling Cthulhu to attack Flame, when:
1) Cthulhu didn't even attack Flame
2) I clearly can't control Cthulhu
5) My thoughts about the trial
The "trial" we all witnessed was basically a group effort by Flame, Loki and Wilf to make me look bad for being attacked and following the rules when it came to retaliation. I didn't even attack Flame in /popular after he attacked me. I attacked him in /jail, so I didn't break ANY rules.
The fact that Wilf was allowed to "pardon" Flame, despite the Criminal Code clearly stating that Attempted Murder means execution, is the biggest blow to the OldCP justice system that I have ever seen. Maybe you should make an actual verdict instead of letting the Drake Prince forgive everyone.
Direct quote from Damen: "Attempted Murder will end with execution. I'll get Chelsey to change it. Eye for an eye."
And I agree. The fact that Flame failed to kill me or an innocent doesn't make the crime any less severe.
I demand a re-trial for this poorly executed excuse of a trial, and this time, get actual witnesses who saw the events unfold (like Rouge and Harry) and get wisdom from someone who actually has any proper wisdom to give, instead of those who talk with untruthful assumptions and a Drake Prince that has a knack for forgiving everyone and everything.
(almost) Everything Flame, Wilf and Loki said are false.
1) The true series of events
I will now give the true series of events as to what happened:
1) I was talking to MOUTH in flooded town, during which Flame logged on and turned on his flames, despite being told by MOUTH multiple times to turn it off. He did it ON PURPOSE as a THREAT. He also said phrases like "I'll extinguish your seas", which was also a clear threat to MOUTH.
2) Upon being threatened back by MOUTH, Flame then logged off his main, got on an alt, and proceeded to attack MOUTH (I don't know if he killed him, but seeing as MOUTH didn't come back after that, I'd say yeah, he did).
3) After that, I said I'd kill Flame where he stands, due to the fact that he had attacked someone in /popular, which meant he was now KOS on South, after which he attacked me and the entire room with lightning.
My proof? I was there, seeing as I was the one who was attacked. And, obviously, cinema footage.
2) "Orbay threatened Flame, so he acted in self-defense"
Yes, I did threaten Flame, but Flame of all people should know that threats are empty unless there's an action to back them up, seeing as he's threatened to kill Orome and his associates several times.
So basically Flame, you're a hypocrite.
Not to mention that his "self-defense" excuse makes no sense because he's OP. If I were to actually attack him, it would have been impossible for me to kill him without him noticing and relogging.
If Flame was really interested in his own safety, he would have waited to see if I would actually attack him. In that case, I would have been at fault for attacking first, and I would have been standing trial.
So not only did Flame attack first, he also threatened first.
3) "Orbay controlled Cthulhu as a weapon"
News flash: I don't control Cthulhu. I have no control over what he does, so for Wilf to say "Orbay controls Cthulhu, so it's a weapon" is, in my opinion, extremely ignorant and senseless.
Oh, and also, Cthulhu being there is not a valid excuse for Flame to attack either, seeing as Cthulhu didn't attack him.
4) Other quotes that show how ridiculous the trial was:
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Flame: He said he was going to kill me after I had struck “MOUTH” on a different account.
Flame: He said he was going to kill me after I had struck “MOUTH” on a different account.
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Loki: We do not know, though. Orbay may have attacked first if Flame had done nothing. Flame hasn’t killed anyone.
Loki basically accusing me of a crime I didn't commit, also defending someone who was attacking innocents. Though I expected nothing different from the all-wise Loki.
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Wilf: Did you hit users attacking Orbay?
Flame: Yes I did.
Wilf: And has Cthuhlu not done the same in the past?
Here we see Wilf using the "if he did it, so can Flame" logic, which you can probably tell is the worst method to justify someone's actions. A disappointing sight.
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Loki: Yes, he couldn’t have done it differently.We’d probably be trying [Orbay].
Surely he couldn't have waited to see if I would actually attack, since he's OP and can withstand the attack. Flawless logic by the all-wise Loki once again.
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Verdict
Pardoned. Orbay sent Cthulu to attack Flame, Flame acted in self-defense.
Me being accused of controlling Cthulhu to attack Flame, when:
1) Cthulhu didn't even attack Flame
2) I clearly can't control Cthulhu
5) My thoughts about the trial
The "trial" we all witnessed was basically a group effort by Flame, Loki and Wilf to make me look bad for being attacked and following the rules when it came to retaliation. I didn't even attack Flame in /popular after he attacked me. I attacked him in /jail, so I didn't break ANY rules.
The fact that Wilf was allowed to "pardon" Flame, despite the Criminal Code clearly stating that Attempted Murder means execution, is the biggest blow to the OldCP justice system that I have ever seen. Maybe you should make an actual verdict instead of letting the Drake Prince forgive everyone.
Direct quote from Damen: "Attempted Murder will end with execution. I'll get Chelsey to change it. Eye for an eye."
And I agree. The fact that Flame failed to kill me or an innocent doesn't make the crime any less severe.
I demand a re-trial for this poorly executed excuse of a trial, and this time, get actual witnesses who saw the events unfold (like Rouge and Harry) and get wisdom from someone who actually has any proper wisdom to give, instead of those who talk with untruthful assumptions and a Drake Prince that has a knack for forgiving everyone and everything.
Cthulhu did attack me though... There was a lightning strike which caused me to strike MOUTH
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29th June 2020, 12:44 PM
What a joke of a trial, Sled, you're a good friend and I think you're a great Emperor Helper, but this trial was a joke. You came into that trial naive and allowed Loki and Wilf of all people to completely go against the criminal code.
I think a retrial is appropriate.
I think a retrial is appropriate.
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