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My Thoughts on Weapon Abuse

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4th October 2020, 10:33 AM

julianhak wrote on 4th October 2020, 08:05 AM:
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Sleddy wrote on 4th October 2020, 12:10 AM:
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Jonathan1tt1 wrote on 4th October 2020, 12:04 AM:
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Sleddy wrote on 3rd October 2020, 10:22 PM:
You're going to hate to hear this but the rules that are in place is that evil should not randomly kill unless it's part of crimezone, like orders given to them from the characters. Or they fight in war. That's the tough part about being evil is having that restraint, because if you don't then it's abuse. It's how things are, if we let evil randomly kill without consequences like this then innocents who are just trying to play the game will get annoyed and lose interest because they have to create new accounts a ton of times. Both evil and good that kill randomly should receive consequences, although it is not always the case, and that should be worked on.
If evil cant kill innocents, whats the point of treason, trials, KOS/AOS orders, etc. Ruins the purpose. Plus, this game doesnt have many casual players anymore and most play for crimezone
its not like cz every happens and most wars are rigged for Good to win. take north war for example, a gatekeeper says “Prepare for victory” or whatever and the blockade breaks LOL??
there isn't supposed to be treason, trials, kos/aos orders. it's there because people don't follow the rules. but even if evil kills innocents for crimezone it's there for that too. it's part of being evil. the whole point is that you're not supposed to do it randomly/for no reason. same with people who aren't evil. they're not supposed to randomly kill as well. as for cz being inactive and wars being rigged for good, there's been times when good has lost. but not much can be done about it unless crimezone helps out evil more/it stops being rigged.
that's actually false, that stuff has been there for as long as I remember. its supposed to be in place, as it gives knights, and executioners a reason to be/exist. if no one can do anything against the law, since they're just banned, there's literally no point in having weapons at all
well I agree that they shouldn't be banned for their actions, and yes all of those things exist so we can prosecute those who break the laws. But it doesn't mean people (good and bad) should go around killing for no reason. That's where the gray area is. What is considered a pointless killing in the hands of evil when evil is there to cause fear? To do bad things in the name of pythas? All that is said that it's supposed to be for crimezone, as an order that's given to them. But I understand the need to further punish people who keep doing the same mistakes over and over again. But it isn't done to the "good side" as much as it should be as well. In fact the lack of trials makes me wonder, because there was a need to trial basically every week when I was EH because people breaking the laws, but then again OldCP hasn't been as active. But trials allowed for a more ingame/no ban approach.
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4th October 2020, 12:07 PM

Sleddy wrote on 4th October 2020, 10:33 AM:
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julianhak wrote on 4th October 2020, 08:05 AM:
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Sleddy wrote on 4th October 2020, 12:10 AM:
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Jonathan1tt1 wrote on 4th October 2020, 12:04 AM:
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Sleddy wrote on 3rd October 2020, 10:22 PM:
You're going to hate to hear this but the rules that are in place is that evil should not randomly kill unless it's part of crimezone, like orders given to them from the characters. Or they fight in war. That's the tough part about being evil is having that restraint, because if you don't then it's abuse. It's how things are, if we let evil randomly kill without consequences like this then innocents who are just trying to play the game will get annoyed and lose interest because they have to create new accounts a ton of times. Both evil and good that kill randomly should receive consequences, although it is not always the case, and that should be worked on.
If evil cant kill innocents, whats the point of treason, trials, KOS/AOS orders, etc. Ruins the purpose. Plus, this game doesnt have many casual players anymore and most play for crimezone
its not like cz every happens and most wars are rigged for Good to win. take north war for example, a gatekeeper says “Prepare for victory” or whatever and the blockade breaks LOL??
there isn't supposed to be treason, trials, kos/aos orders. it's there because people don't follow the rules. but even if evil kills innocents for crimezone it's there for that too. it's part of being evil. the whole point is that you're not supposed to do it randomly/for no reason. same with people who aren't evil. they're not supposed to randomly kill as well. as for cz being inactive and wars being rigged for good, there's been times when good has lost. but not much can be done about it unless crimezone helps out evil more/it stops being rigged.
that's actually false, that stuff has been there for as long as I remember. its supposed to be in place, as it gives knights, and executioners a reason to be/exist. if no one can do anything against the law, since they're just banned, there's literally no point in having weapons at all
well I agree that they shouldn't be banned for their actions, and yes all of those things exist so we can prosecute those who break the laws. But it doesn't mean people (good and bad) should go around killing for no reason. That's where the gray area is. What is considered a pointless killing in the hands of evil when evil is there to cause fear? To do bad things in the name of pythas? All that is said that it's supposed to be for crimezone, as an order that's given to them. But I understand the need to further punish people who keep doing the same mistakes over and over again. But it isn't done to the "good side" as much as it should be as well. In fact the lack of trials makes me wonder, because there was a need to trial basically every week when I was EH because people breaking the laws, but then again OldCP hasn't been as active. But trials allowed for a more ingame/no ban approach.

I completely agree that killing innocents randomly is wrong, for both sides, and whoever does so should be punished by the respective Island ruler. I'm just against the thought that it's a bannable offense.

I'm glad we were able to come to an understanding on that subject.
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