A Bird
Banned
209 posts
297
Posted in Witches should be removed. • 27th May 2020, 04:15 PM

It implies, that's all it does. Witches arent evil or Occult that's obvious considering how much we keep saying and doing good things. You're entitled to your opinion.
4

A Bird
Banned
209 posts
297
Posted in Dont be a Son of a Witch • 27th May 2020, 03:04 PM

Jdutr wrote on 27th May 2020, 02:56 PM:
Ok, everyone seems to be going crazy again over something that would have been small if the situation was handled better. From my point of view this can all be resolved if everyone looks at things from each other’s point of view. I want to raise a couple of unbiased points that hopefully everyone will be able to agree with.
1) Damen wants witches gone and you should respect that
What is a witch?
noun
a woman thought to have magic powers, especially evil ones, popularly depicted as wearing a black cloak and pointed hat and flying on a broomstick.
Now, I appreciate that the majority of people do not believe in magic or witchcraft to be either real or even “evil”. Nobody is really trying to convince you that it is either. That being said, we all have different beliefs and faiths which ultimately form part of our identity as people.
As Damen is a Jehovah’s Witness, you might be able to understand his point of view more clearly by reading about magic and witchcraft on the official JW website here: https://www.jw.org/en/library/books/gods-friend/magic-witchcraft/
Now, I obviously can’t comment on to what extent someone follows a teaching as that also differs from person to person even within the same religion. That being said, you can surely see why this would cause Damen an internal conflict as ultimately he is the person responsible for the game.
Users demanding that witch craft and magic should take place in the game despite this is somewhat disrespectful in my opinion. If the game was ran by a Muslim then you wouldn’t expect him to allow a Mosque bombing gang to run riot or have to Mohammed drawing contests during the next game night.
2) Damen probably should have explained his reasoning better and provided an alternative from the start
With the previous in mind, I don’t think anyone would have been against witches being removed if the reasoning was explained beforehand in more detail and they were allowed to switch to an alternative from the start.
I sympathise with Melian etc as I get that it would feel pretty harsh to have everything taken away at the drop of a hat and be made to feel like the bad guy all of a sudden. In the eyes of the “witches”, I guess that we have to also be sensitive to the fact that they don’t share the belief that witches are evil and therefore to punish someone out of the blue based on your own faith (without attempting to offer a solution that keeps both sides happy), was obviously going to anger people.
I know that the offer to become “Vulture Shamans” has now been made which is great and hopefully people will accept this.
3) The level of respect has been appalling lately
I don’t have anything against people respectfully giving their criticisms, but borderline insulting Damen for his beliefs by calling it “lunacy” is offensive and calling the game and community terrible off the back of one decision is completely ungrateful.
There is clearly a lot of work that goes into the various projects that we’ve been gifted access to over the years and not once has anything been asked for in return.
Even some members of the staff team that have built up a clique-like following because of their position in the community seem to think that because they have influence means that they are able to speak in a way which mocks the owner.
If you’re reading this thinking “Jdutr is such a kiss ass” because I seem to defend DSGHQ a lot, then I don’t mind. I never beg to anyone for anything and I don’t ever do so with the intention of getting something in return. I appreciate that if anything, we receive more than what we deserve given the attitude of so many people in the community.
3) Conclusion
Damen does need to work on not rushing his communication in order to spare people’s feelings which I’m sure he admits.
We as users need to focus on communicating our angers and in a way that is respectful and appreciative of everyone.
Some Christian and Witch wisdom to finish:
Jesus: “Do unto others what you would have them do to you”.
Dumbledore: “You can never have enough socks, Harry”.
TLDR; Don’t be a Son of a W*tch

I'm ignoring this for.. Obvious reasons Jdutr. I don't think we're going around worshipping the Devil at all, or saying his religion is a lie or anything like that. So we don't match the definition of a Witch. Names are names, actions are actions. <3
1

A Bird
Banned
209 posts
297
Posted in witch debate • 27th May 2020, 02:27 PM

AudreyGalx wrote on 27th May 2020, 02:12 PM:
i put this in cool stuff because i am cool stuff
anyways
the witches
okay so the witches have been brought back, i've even been invited myself which i didn't get involved in because i had a feeling that the outcome would be something along the lines of what's going on right now, but they are harmless. it's evident that those submitting to this virtual witchery are just making a bit of fun for themselves during the tough times of quarantine and the virus, they're just having fun, which we want right? they've put a lot of effort in to their work regarding starting up this group, and they're openly not submitting to pythas nor any evil whatsoever, so what's the problem?
the problem
damen doesn't accept his citizens submitting to any witchplay or witchcraft, and demands all knights of every land and kingdom to join him to remove the witches from OldCP. i think the way the situation was handled sucked, and it could've easily been resolved with a simple discussion with whoever is running the witches.
backlash
damen receives a ton of dislikes on the discussion created opposing the upcoming witch group, and many are angry. 'First of all we put a lot of effort into Witches, and we will all quit if you do this, secondly we're not evil at all, and all we've done is help people. I hope we can discuss this privately but it seems very stupid to say this. Lastly, stop encouraging people to kill other users, you'll drive them off the game.' -Melian.
many are confused as it's just some sort of harmless roleplay, and they are not of any evil kind. but this isn't the issue, the issue isn't that they're not evil or that it's just a bit of roleplay, it's that damen doesn't like witches.
damen
before you hate on damen for his actions, do try talk it out and gather reasoning behind his actions. remember that damen is the only reason we all know each other today and have made incredible memories since 2012. he works for hours daily for us and we don't thank him enough. honestly whilst you are all mostly upset about his decision, just accept it. change your concept from witchery to something else. damen owns and develops this game and he works hard for you all, so do even the littlest action for him and accept it.
conclusion
i understand that the witches right now have put in a ton of effort in to what they're doing and it's just a bit of fun, but i hope that everyone can just move past today and continue your concept in a new light, for example i think you guys are birds now? or something. i don't know, i don't pay attention to it.
edit: they're now vultures
just remember that damen is the reason we're all here today.
oh and that it's just clubpenguin
Hey, so I guess Damen can do whatever he likes? I mean sure Door, I mean its not as if we haven't asked him to y'know, talk to us and maybe explain why he wants this before he kills everyone. Also one of the rules is that all the admins agree on something, clearly that's not the case and clearly most users are pretty annoyed about KOS over an inconsequential name which doesn't matter.

I'm not the unreasonable one, all I have done is try to reach out again and again. If he doesn't want to seriously discuss this, despite saying he does, there's not much we can do door.

We rebranded ourselves, we're not at all like the Witches, but apparently we're not "unique" enough, we compromise his "values" or he just doesn't like the Witches.

Anyway, we're the Vulture Shamans now, and all of this could've been avoided.

A massive THANK YOU, to all the Witches/Supporters for backing us all the way. Apparently a name change was all we needed! Tysm honestly, we managed to bring about some change, which is quite difficult in Oldcp. Thank you to Door for being really kind and civil, and I do not have any hate towards anyone they just have different views is all <3.
3

A Bird
Banned
209 posts
297
Posted in Damen needs to butter his croissant • 27th May 2020, 11:21 AM

Damen wrote on 27th May 2020, 11:18 AM:
Quote:
Jibreel1024 wrote on 27th May 2020, 11:17 AM:
Quote:
Damen wrote on 27th May 2020, 11:14 AM:
Quote:
Jibreel1024 wrote on 27th May 2020, 11:12 AM:
Quote:
Damen wrote on 27th May 2020, 10:59 AM:
Quote:
Jibreel1024 wrote on 27th May 2020, 10:16 AM:
I can agree with this. He simply doesn't play the game enough in order to be connected with its users, there needs to be more communication between him and the average player. For example the Witches, if he had just simply asked around to the users he would see that they are not a problem and there is no reason to get rid of them. Crime zone I completely agree with its actual garbage, it used to be so good back in 2015 and then it got ruined with all these new characters and this and that. I completely agree with the mails part, I see countless moods a week with nothing other then "Damen check mail" I bet if we checked that mail all there would be is you asking him for something, if I was him I wouldn't check mail either. Everything else I don't know about so I can't comment about it, but from the looks of it very accurate post. I loves it.
I know the witches are good. But I hate witches and rituals. CONVERT OR KILL THEM, YOU WHO ARE LOYAL TO THE SOUTH!
I do need to check my mails more, I will endeavour to improve on that. As for CZ, this has always been the case. People didn't like black hawks back in the day, and they don't like the forest CZ. But actually, a lot of people do, and its those people who work to get into it who get noticed eventually.
If they are good then what is the problem with them? There are so many other problems on oldcp that are ACTUALLY bad, dont you think we should focus on fixing those before we go ahead and get upset about something that causes no harm to others. I don't know just my opinion.
Good or bad... witches, vampires, rituals and sorcery is outlawed from the game. It wasn't always like that, hence the shift away from the djinn and magic we've seen. This isn't something I just made up today, its been a change in direction I've been working on for months.
If getting rid of them is something you truly believe in and it will help the game go in a new direction, then I guess I have should no reason to argue with you. It's your game after all and you can't please everyone. Maybe a poll should be created to see what majority thinks?
Thanks. Sometimes I have to make decisions the majority don't like. I can't always people please. I have my values and that's what I have to stick to. The occult has no place on oldcp.


We're not Occult in any way, this isn't a cult, people join in because they want to and it's fun. I don't force anyone to do anything "Occult" or "Evil". I'm not sure what else to tell you, but i'm not lying.
1

A Bird
Banned
209 posts
297
Posted in Damen needs to butter his croissant • 27th May 2020, 11:18 AM

Damen wrote on 27th May 2020, 10:59 AM:
Quote:
Jibreel1024 wrote on 27th May 2020, 10:16 AM:
I can agree with this. He simply doesn't play the game enough in order to be connected with its users, there needs to be more communication between him and the average player. For example the Witches, if he had just simply asked around to the users he would see that they are not a problem and there is no reason to get rid of them. Crime zone I completely agree with its actual garbage, it used to be so good back in 2015 and then it got ruined with all these new characters and this and that. I completely agree with the mails part, I see countless moods a week with nothing other then "Damen check mail" I bet if we checked that mail all there would be is you asking him for something, if I was him I wouldn't check mail either. Everything else I don't know about so I can't comment about it, but from the looks of it very accurate post. I loves it.
I know the witches are good. But I hate witches and rituals. CONVERT OR KILL THEM, YOU WHO ARE LOYAL TO THE SOUTH!
I do need to check my mails more, I will endeavour to improve on that. As for CZ, this has always been the case. People didn't like black hawks back in the day, and they don't like the forest CZ. But actually, a lot of people do, and its those people who work to get into it who get noticed eventually.

I think it's safe to say the majority don't agree with his. I have made my point on discord if you want to read it, explaining how Witches are different.
2

A Bird
Banned
209 posts
297
Posted in Witches • 27th May 2020, 11:07 AM

Damen wrote on 27th May 2020, 11:05 AM:
Quote:
Galadriel wrote on 27th May 2020, 04:03 AM:
Quote:
Damen wrote on 27th May 2020, 03:04 AM:
I do not accept our citizens submitting to witchplay or witchcraft. You who are loyal to the Empire, see to it that these 'witches' abandon their witchhood. If they refuse, hunt them down.
I call all Knights of every land and Kingdom, join me to remove the witches from OldCP.
First of all we put a lot of effort into Witches, and we will all quit if you do this, secondly we're not evil at all, and all we've done is help people. I hope we can discuss this privately but it seems very stupid to say this.
Lastly, stop encouraging people to kill other users, you'll drive them off the game.
Why do you have a problem with Witches and not Vampires?
I do have a problem with vampires. Kill the vampires too, as far as I am concerned.

People should play the game the way they want to play it, and not have an admin make them all KOS. WE'RE NOT AFFILIATED WITH CZ, please don't drag a bunch of people into this.
1

A Bird
Banned
209 posts
297
Posted in Damen needs to butter his croissant • 27th May 2020, 11:03 AM

Damen wrote on 27th May 2020, 10:59 AM:
Quote:
Jibreel1024 wrote on 27th May 2020, 10:16 AM:
I can agree with this. He simply doesn't play the game enough in order to be connected with its users, there needs to be more communication between him and the average player. For example the Witches, if he had just simply asked around to the users he would see that they are not a problem and there is no reason to get rid of them. Crime zone I completely agree with its actual garbage, it used to be so good back in 2015 and then it got ruined with all these new characters and this and that. I completely agree with the mails part, I see countless moods a week with nothing other then "Damen check mail" I bet if we checked that mail all there would be is you asking him for something, if I was him I wouldn't check mail either. Everything else I don't know about so I can't comment about it, but from the looks of it very accurate post. I loves it.
I know the witches are good. But I hate witches and rituals. CONVERT OR KILL THEM, YOU WHO ARE LOYAL TO THE SOUTH!
I do need to check my mails more, I will endeavour to improve on that. As for CZ, this has always been the case. People didn't like black hawks back in the day, and they don't like the forest CZ. But actually, a lot of people do, and its those people who work to get into it who get noticed eventually.


Rituals don't matter, they're just sessions where we speak to eachother, please do not try and kill loads of innocent people who are trying to make the game better!!
4

A Bird
Banned
209 posts
297
Posted in Witches • 27th May 2020, 05:14 AM

Damen wrote on 27th May 2020, 03:04 AM:
I do not accept our citizens submitting to witchplay or witchcraft. You who are loyal to the Empire, see to it that these 'witches' abandon their witchhood. If they refuse, hunt them down.
I call all Knights of every land and Kingdom, join me to remove the witches from OldCP.

Loki is a Witch, are you going to kill her?
6

A Bird
Banned
209 posts
297
Posted in Witches • 27th May 2020, 04:03 AM

Damen wrote on 27th May 2020, 03:04 AM:
I do not accept our citizens submitting to witchplay or witchcraft. You who are loyal to the Empire, see to it that these 'witches' abandon their witchhood. If they refuse, hunt them down.
I call all Knights of every land and Kingdom, join me to remove the witches from OldCP.


First of all we put a lot of effort into Witches, and we will all quit if you do this, secondly we're not evil at all, and all we've done is help people. I hope we can discuss this privately but it seems very stupid to say this.

Lastly, stop encouraging people to kill other users, you'll drive them off the game.

Why do you have a problem with Witches and not Vampires?
26

A Bird
Banned
209 posts
297
Posted in Our Protest.. • 14th March 2020, 04:55 PM

Chelsey wrote on 14th March 2020, 04:50 PM:
unfortunately not much can be done about the things he says on discord, considering he's not currently in any official servers.
my best suggestion would be to block him there and let an in-game administrator deal with him killing so many of your accounts. i'll make sure Damen sees this, i promise.

Chelsey, i'm sorry but i disagree with you. I can guarantee if he threatened you irl on discord, you wouldn't just ignore it, you'd try to make sure someone who's actively damaging the userbase and creating a culture of hatred was punished and or stopped from doing it again. Sadly, no one seems to be willing to say "NO" to Frogs.
8

A Bird
Banned
209 posts
297
Posted in Revival • 14th March 2020, 03:50 PM

I agree with the revival system, but I don't agree when CZ actors that shouldn't be able to revive like SWINE, revive people. This just makes the whole system pointless, if this is the case then everyone should just be revived.
3

A Bird
Banned
209 posts
297
Posted in DSGHQ Awards 2019 • 3rd March 2020, 04:45 PM

Damen wrote on 3rd March 2020, 04:22 PM:
DSGHQ AWARDS
Helper award
GOES TO BRIT! A fine EH indeed. Thank you for your help.
Evil Award
Goes to Forgs. The evil lord that threw his life away for a short moment of 'powah'.
Death Award
Lex
Most Hideous of Women Award
Melian the Terrible
Most Ravaging of Women Award
Rainberry the Rather Nice
Most Splendid Of Friendly and Helpful Players
Loki, she makes a fine example of making great reports
Most Dedicated To Lord Damen (me)
Sled of course, the very dedicated and helpful of admins
Most Annoying Son
Sriram did not win this one this time. Rather, it has become Wilf for being a ragequitter. But since then he's stopped ragequitting in 2020. Thank goodness.
Most Brave of Admins
Abu, for being brave ofc
Best Returning User
CPBiter (even tho he returned in 2020)
Best Kill Streak
This one goes to Kace and Orlock the Mighty Warrior who slew 50 in one fell swoop
Crowding Damen Award
Major and Lex
Most Cool Trendy Teenager Award
Leah
Most Handsome Of Warriors Award
Sir Victoralex09 looks most fearsome in his armor, ready to defend King Damen (me) and Empress Raindrop
Best Female Priest
Kutya, for using holy oil to pour on Raindrop when nobody even asked!
Best Builder Award
Nook
Wise Award
*ahem* Goeth to Fable for another year in a row
Funniest Player Award
Wilf, hits with the Wilf Show all year round baby
and to all of you, a fond award: finishing reading this post


Can I have 700k gold?
-1

A Bird
Banned
209 posts
297
Posted in Damen Seizes Control? • 1st March 2020, 04:00 PM

Damen wrote on 1st March 2020, 03:32 PM:
WHY SHOULD I, DAMEN, CREATOR OF DSGHQ AND OLDCP AND LORD OF HOUSE DRAKE, ALLOW MY HOUSE FALL TO RUIN? WHY SHOULDN'T I RE-MARRY MY WIFE AND TAKE BACK POWER?
WHY SHOULD I SIT BY AS PEOPLE DIE BY THE SCORE? WHY SHOULDN'T I RESET ALL WEAPONS AND BECOME LORD EMPEROR ONCE MORE?
(me returning to take back control?)
(me watching the mess made by me not being Emp)
(me imagining Brit as Empress)
(me realising DRAKES will be out of power for good if I don't do something)
WHAT DO YOU SAY FOR A DRAKE RE-TAKE OVER THROUGH ME! I WILL RID THE WORLD OF WEAPONS AND RESET PEOPLES WEAPONS!
AND ESTABLISH A CAESAR-LIKE ARMOURY COMMAND, TO ISSUE WEAPONS BACK TO THE GOOD AND RID THE WEAPONS FROM THE EVIL ENEMIES OF THE STATE?

Can Melians health be fixed and can she please be revived. <3 Oh Wise Caesar
2