julianhak wrote on 10th April 2020, 02:48 PM:

I agree, there are a lot of problems with the current CZ. Regarding this:

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Supermikey97 wrote on 10th April 2020, 01:41 PM:
I often see them complain when they die but some of them I also see get revived, which is a luxury that not many people can get so easily, especially under the rules laid down by the Lord of Death

If an OP user is revived, it was either an unfair death or because they're a mod (7-day mod revive). Otherwise, though, I agree with you 100%. CZ can be interesting one day, but be related to something completely different, and doesn't follow much of a consecutive story anymore the way it did before.

Not sure I agree with the 7 day mod revive being applied to rulers of Islands. Those people have legacies, it just doesn’t work.

Hi, It's me, Mike. I haven't really come out with a big long post critiquing something in, I believe, quite a while. But here we are, and as I want to move away from the catfishing discussion thing, I want to give my insight on the state of crime zone and what I have observed as a man who doesn't use create items or have OP health. Today, I want to discuss all the reasons that CZ is Damaged Beyond Repair.

Yesterday I made a post about what others thought of the state of Crime zone. This was just to see what people of the community have also observed. After all, I can't say I am all that active in the crime zone as much as others. Some of the information I gathered (aside from inappropriate topics discussed in the CZ), some people saying they didn't understand it, to people who say there are too many OP users, that the create items created a pay to win system, some people missing the mystery aspect. I want to make attention that these complaints are not at all new, but I want to go over some of these points and explain them in detail.

Too Many OP Users

As Damen has mentioned, users being OP isn't new, however, in comparison with today's CZ, there are many starch differences. Damen came out with a response to people complaining about OP users by saying that it isn't new because a lot of the CZ characters had OP or Infinite Health. However, in context, these characters, (at least most), had scripted deaths. The OP users that we see today (and I believe there are way too many with far too much health), do not have scripted deaths and some of them are surely not Gods. I often see them complain when they die but some of them I also see get revived, which is a luxury that not many people can get so easily, especially under the rules laid down by the Lord of Death.

Now how does this make the CZ damaged beyond repair? Well in order to fix this, we'd either need to go back to the old system of the far few having OP health, or no one having OP health except for the current CZ characters played by actors. This would, in turn, make wars and conflicts fairer and not one-sided. It would also lessen the use of nukes because, well, for many OP users that's the only they die faster. But OP health isn't the only thing that makes CZ damaged beyond repair.

The Rich, the Poor, and Bourgeosie

Now, what did I mean in my thesis when I talked of a "Pay to Win" aspect. I say this is all due to the "create" system. Long when it was first made people bought amulets and these amulets would give certain buffs to your character. This wasn't entirely bad until it became exploited for even more weapons. These weapons became even more powerful. But now, coupled with the OP users with OP health part of the CZ, some people need to buy these stronger weapons in order to have a chance. This creates a pay to win system, in which not paying at all means you will die quicker and stand no chance against certain enemies, than if you did pay. Some users even need contacts to buy weapons for them so that they stand a chance. In a more fair CZ, this wouldn't have even been necessary. But of course, while there are OP users and some needing cash to get by, there all also other glaring problems with the CZ.

Less Mystery, Just Random Events

Overall the storyline that the CZ follows seems like a series of random events with users like "Oomlek" and "Mairon" leading the way. There's less mystery aspect involved like the previous CZs involving Blackhawks and the like. The Crime Office itself has been abandoned. There is no one to solve the crime because the crimes are already solved, they're just a random chain of events. What made Blackhawk CZ interesting is it gave the powered users and powerless users involved something to do, something to figure out and theorize on, something to discover on their own. Mafia CZ was also interesting in that aspect as it wasn't all just random shoot outs; granted, of course, Mafia CZ had to blend with the current CZ to also survive on its own.

Conclusion

I could talk about all the solutions I could give to make the CZ good, but I personally don't have any. I feel like it would require a reset of everything and it's just not worth it. The best I can say to all those who are just as powerless as I am, learn to adapt and overcome. This is the type of CZ we have and I doubt will ever change. Many of the greats started from the ground up, and you can too. You just gotta know who talk to, if that helps.

Leave your thoughts below.

Catfishing for 9 years and not coming out about it until you were caught is extremely wrong and I refuse to pretend he's brave for coming out now. Regardless though, I personally don't hold any hate for him and I wish him well.

Hi, I'm writing this because I'd like to have a collective discussion about the state of CZ. Do you think it's good? Do you think it needs improvements? Do you think it's bad and needs serious improvements? Let me know what you think below.

Sampopxxx101 wrote on 9th April 2020, 06:11 PM:

Wow I thought the doing nothing for a bit was really interesting! What was your favorite part of the day?

the call til 6AM lol

> I stayed on call for until 6AM
> I took a shower
> I fell asleep for about 6 hours and woke up at noon
> I hate waking up at noon
> I watch the wind blow real fast, the storm is real crazy
> I meditate for a little bit
> I go and play video games for probably an hour, while I talk to my friends on discord.
> I do nothing for a bit
> I go on oldcp to see a trial going on there's so many people
> I get in the zoom call, I accidentally swear and I honestly felt bad for doing that (sorry Damen).
> I contemplate my thoughts a little more and how I miss seeing other people, I miss seeing school. My school has been cancelled for the rest of the year. I can't believe Junior Year is over. I over thought about the year when I started once because people say Junior Year was the worst. Honestly, for me it wasn't all that bad.
> Courtney is a man, stop silencing Milan. The admins agreed to keep the post up. Catfishing is wrong and someone has to call them out. Read the full thing here.
> I'm gonna go eat dinner and probably sleep later.
> Sorry I haven't done these in awhile.

Don't give into those people man, just keep being you. You can DM me if you need to talk.

flameknight333 wrote on 9th April 2020, 12:45 AM:

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Supermikey97 wrote on 9th April 2020, 12:42 AM:
We changed the government of Cobia, therefore the rules are different.

I claim Cobia regardless, I don't see people changing Providence's Government. Why? I would of tried to change that by now but it hasn't happened. No one ever said Cobia had legacies.
And since the PLA straight up attacked in a Popular a room, I don't think you have much room to argue.

He was possessed by Damn Daniel dude idk what to tell you.

We changed the government of Cobia, therefore the rules are different.

Warth wrote on 8th April 2020, 09:26 PM:

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Supermikey97 wrote on 8th April 2020, 09:03 PM:
I'm sorry this happened to you but, why didn't you log off or get Warth to arrest them?

there we're mods at that time i think then Dancebear told me to just arrest her.

If those supposed Mods were unavailable or AFK you should have stepped in and arrested the offender lol.

I'm sorry this happened to you but, why didn't you log off or get Warth to arrest them?

I go to sleep for 8 hours and there’s a mass murder lol

I'm on Sled's side if I was infected with some uncurable curse by some bullcrap CZ, and my rule over the isle was at risk, I'd do the same thing.

I don’t know if I agree with this rule. This just seems like it’s going to make it harder for non-OP users to ever continue to fight in war (usually most of the deaths in CZ are normal users without special health or strength).

I guess to counter-act this you could just arm a bunch of alts, but I feel like a better idea would be to make some users arms dealers that are able to give out weapons to others themselves.

I don’t think this rule is that bad honestly, but I’m just concerned about the consequences of it disproportionately making it harder for the powerless to continue to fight.