Alyse frogs making fun of you doesnt make it right for making fun of me, you and melian were picking on me for 2 days, if you tell him to stop, you should stop first

Update: all of his weapons, xprops were removed. Damen wants to see if he will change. If he doesn't, he will be IPBanned.

shame on the staff for letting this go on for so long

Sleddy wrote on 14th March 2020, 06:03 PM:

Update: all of his weapons, xprops were removed. Damen wants to see if he will change. If he doesn't, he will be IPBanned.

Honestly, Frogs has been given so many chances. I can mention all of them: firstly, he was banned on forums for breaking rules, then Damen unbanned him and said he was giving Frogs a chance. Alright, Frogs wasted his chance and was suspended again for disrespecting users and breaking community values. After his ban expired, he came back and did the same thing, I banned him and now he's spreading virulent comments against me and other Staff members. I have no bias against Frogs, but this situation is not sustainable anymore. We've seen it many times that Frogs won't change, he was given chances and opportunities to show his bright side and all he has done was repeat the same behaviors that lead us to punish him.
I don't know how we reached this point, but this is an indisputable proof that there's something extremely wrong with this community. I'm an old user and I have never seen this before. I don't know why this has been allowed, but for sure it is something that shouldn't be tolerated.

I honestly feel like this is the reason that OldCP took a huge toll. I mean, it's not the only reason but it is up there for being one of the bigger reasons for the decline of users. New, innocent users have no idea that you can have weapons on OldCP and they sometimes get tricked and because of this they're killed off. I can imagine how saddening and discouraging this can be when you're playing a game because now that nobody plays the game that much, there's nobody to guide the new people, if we get any. It's also a bit hard because since there's people like Frogs doing this stuff, people request weapons in order to defend themselves. I feel like we're in the middle of "get rid of a lot of people having weapons" and "give people weapons for defense." I think that if we removed the primary issue, the person causing the killings with op/really good items, then we can have some people with weapons for when there are reasonable and doable attacks that those people can manage. We'd honestly be able to have the best of both worlds in a way.

Xvoid wrote on 14th March 2020, 05:05 PM:

he's just a troll, the only reason he says the stuff he says is for a reaction out of you guys, also probably a few underlying issues irl, but i wouldn't take the stuff he says on discord to heart cus it is just the internet.

Of course it's just the internet.

But some people do take it to heart.

It's like asking a small child not to cry when you hit them.

I appreciate your support with this situation. It means a lot.

Damen had addressed this in his previous live-stream (last 6 minutes of it, go watch); and he said he removed Frogs' weapons and if he is re-armed by any CZ character, then Administrators should take it into consideration and remove those weapons too.

If Frogs' behaviour continues, he will be IPBanned.

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Now, my thoughts on this:

Damen, don't be so gullible. Take this seriously.

Damen's mood is quite unnecessary, especially using the #metoo tag. The Me Too (or #MeToo) movement, with a large variety of related local or international names, is a movement against sexual harassment and sexual assault.
Damen used this very serious thing to shine light in a joking manner on Frogs.
Although Frogs behavior is very toxic and should be called out for it; using the Metoo hashtag in a manner that many found offensive was a choice. (thanks Chis)

Frog's has been given many, many chances and I hope Damen sees that the users of this community aren't happy that he his given yet another, pointless chance.

@Damen : You have a good heart giving people multiple chances, but sometimes there is a limit to how many you can give. Teach yourself these limits.

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I will state one more thing:

Frogs is not a bad person.

He's just stupid.

so why exactly have you not blocked him?

weend2014 wrote on 15th March 2020, 10:34 AM:

so why exactly have you not blocked him?

I have.

didn't see a few screenshots until now but what i wanna know is why are you all making a post complaining about frogs for ''bullying'' and threatening people irl when you guys do the same thing and have been for a while, i don't understand why you guys go to all that effort to get frogs' stuff removed when im pretty sure most of you abuse your stuff and say things that are just as bad. the hypocrisy is real tho:






it's kind of embarrassing you guys are making yourselves out to be victims, there are a lot more screenshots but i cant be bothered to go looking, none of you are saints outside of oldcp so stop acting like you are and it's a bit sad you all went to the extent to getting the whole community to attack one guy when you could just as easily message an administrator about the weapon abuse and have it resolved but i think before you go around telling people how to act or go around calling them out for what they say i think you guys need to check if you follow what you say. not everyone is exactly nice on discord from this community i'll admit that but my problem is you guys are making yourselves out to be victims of ''bullying'' and the things you are all complaining about him saying is the same as what you say to others. i think if you want him to stop being rude to you guys you should probably follow the saying 'treat others how you want to be treated'

i don't really know or like frogs but it's kind of pathetic to see everyone attacking the guy and this post in general is just really hypocritical however, the only person i sympathies with is loki because as far as i am aware she does nothing to deserve the harassment she gets from frogs but can't say the same for the rest of you.

Xvoid wrote on 15th March 2020, 12:59 PM:

didn't see a few screenshots until now but what i wanna know is why are you all making a post complaining about frogs for ''bullying'' and threatening people irl when you guys do the same thing and have been for a while, i don't understand why you guys go to all that effort to get frogs' stuff removed when im pretty sure most of you abuse your stuff and say things that are just as bad. the hypocrisy is real tho:
it's kind of embarrassing you guys are making yourselves out to be victims, there are a lot more screenshots but i cant be bothered to go looking, none of you are saints outside of oldcp so stop acting like you are and it's a bit sad you all went to the extent to getting the whole community to attack one guy when you could just as easily message an administrator about the weapon abuse and have it resolved but i think before you go around telling people how to act or go around calling them out for what they say i think you guys need to check if you follow what you say. not everyone is exactly nice on discord from this community i'll admit that but my problem is you guys are making yourselves out to be victims of ''bullying'' and the things you are all complaining about him saying is the same as what you say to others. i think if you want him to stop being rude to you guys you should probably follow the saying 'treat others how you want to be treated'
i don't really know or like frogs but it's kind of pathetic to see everyone attacking the guy and this post in general is just really hypocritical however, the only person i sympathies with is loki because as far as i am aware she does nothing to deserve the harassment she gets from frogs but can't say the same for the rest of you.

Hm. Funny.

You see, I don't recall saying to anyone to die. I wouldn't ever wish that upon anybody.

Xvoid wrote on 15th March 2020, 12:59 PM:

didn't see a few screenshots until now but what i wanna know is why are you all making a post complaining about frogs for ''bullying'' and threatening people irl when you guys do the same thing and have been for a while, i don't understand why you guys go to all that effort to get frogs' stuff removed when im pretty sure most of you abuse your stuff and say things that are just as bad. the hypocrisy is real tho:
it's kind of embarrassing you guys are making yourselves out to be victims, there are a lot more screenshots but i cant be bothered to go looking, none of you are saints outside of oldcp so stop acting like you are and it's a bit sad you all went to the extent to getting the whole community to attack one guy when you could just as easily message an administrator about the weapon abuse and have it resolved but i think before you go around telling people how to act or go around calling them out for what they say i think you guys need to check if you follow what you say. not everyone is exactly nice on discord from this community i'll admit that but my problem is you guys are making yourselves out to be victims of ''bullying'' and the things you are all complaining about him saying is the same as what you say to others. i think if you want him to stop being rude to you guys you should probably follow the saying 'treat others how you want to be treated'
i don't really know or like frogs but it's kind of pathetic to see everyone attacking the guy and this post in general is just really hypocritical however, the only person i sympathies with is loki because as far as i am aware she does nothing to deserve the harassment she gets from frogs but can't say the same for the rest of you.

that screenshot of me saying that was from months ago when i was like best friends w carly, i'm not like that anymore and i've already apologized so many times to sriram. and like we've said so many times we've told admins, including damen, multiple times about frogs and nothing has been done.

Wait people still play oldcp-

HipHop wrote on 16th March 2020, 12:19 AM:

Wait people still play oldcp-

ikr; it's a shocker