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22nd April 2020, 01:03 PM
I never expected to be posting on here again but here I am. I'm just going to keep this relatively short.
You aren't going to solve anything by banning people for leaving this community; clearly there is something wrong if this many people are continuing to leave. Giving people harsh punishments for stupid reasons is unethical. Not only that, but it gives the community a bad image. Lex's CPPS is gaining popularity because people believe OldCP would be better if it were run differently than it is now. Also, the argument, "Lex copied OldCP," is invalid because every single CPPS is a copy of Club Penguin. I understand that Damen added some custom rooms, however it is not yet confirmed whether or not they will be used in Lex's CPPS. Rather than banning people for leaving, the administration should reflect on what's wrong and assess themselves on what they could do better in order to improve the game so these users will return and be motivated to play.
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I don't want to cause more drama or any arguments, I just hope you guys can understand where we are coming from. Listen to what the users want instead of letting the game die out. It just isn't fair to ban people for this. Thanks for reading.
You aren't going to solve anything by banning people for leaving this community; clearly there is something wrong if this many people are continuing to leave. Giving people harsh punishments for stupid reasons is unethical. Not only that, but it gives the community a bad image. Lex's CPPS is gaining popularity because people believe OldCP would be better if it were run differently than it is now. Also, the argument, "Lex copied OldCP," is invalid because every single CPPS is a copy of Club Penguin. I understand that Damen added some custom rooms, however it is not yet confirmed whether or not they will be used in Lex's CPPS. Rather than banning people for leaving, the administration should reflect on what's wrong and assess themselves on what they could do better in order to improve the game so these users will return and be motivated to play.
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If you are so concerned about Damen’s hard work, maybe you should take a step back and acknowledge why in the first place people are declining in appreciation: this entire community has gone to crap with its rogue staff and user base. Truly getting the full experience of OldCP is not a tale of hard work, only a tale of how much people like you to include you in events such as CZ. The mere fact that the staff have to take drastic measures as to scare people from joining a competing CPPS by threatening them with a ban shows that OldCP cannot hold it together and crumbles at the sight of a challenge. Instead of guilt tripping and threatening people for leaving for an alternative CPPS, give them a reason to stay. Instead of being so arrogant and thinking that your precious OldCP is picture perfect, acknowledge that it has its faults and fix them. Denying these faults only causes more controversy. You see, I’m not tryna just take the piss on OldCP for no reason. I’m trying to also offer a solution so this doesn’t happen again. The staff that are taking the measures to ban people are only driving people like me and others away. I was a dedicated user, albeit I left, I considered coming back but after a sudden turn in events that have happened before, I’m not surprised that this blew up the way it did. I believe we can all mature if we finally talk about the elephant in the room.
I don't want to cause more drama or any arguments, I just hope you guys can understand where we are coming from. Listen to what the users want instead of letting the game die out. It just isn't fair to ban people for this. Thanks for reading.
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22nd April 2020, 02:52 PM
Sleddy wrote on 22nd April 2020, 02:25 PM:
great quote from a person who hasn't played oldcp since 2014
He actually played well into 2015 after the Empire was created and he left due to the very same reasons stated above.
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22nd April 2020, 02:59 PM
Lark wrote on 22nd April 2020, 02:55 PM:
It should probably be a sign that some people are leaving from these flaws, not something just to brush off.
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22nd April 2020, 03:00 PM
Lark wrote on 22nd April 2020, 02:55 PM:
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Sleddy wrote on 22nd April 2020, 02:25 PM:
great quote from a person who hasn't played oldcp since 2014
great quote from a person who hasn't played oldcp since 2014
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oh no I know the flaws and I am trying my best to make it better. It's just funny to me because I have 0 respect for this particular person. He griefed the DSGHQ minecraft server with his friends so I could care less about what he has to say. I'll listen to anyone else who has issues with the game and try to fix those issues, but oh no, not this kid. Also he's been talking about me behind my back about stuff that happened two years ago. He needs to get a life.
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22nd April 2020, 03:19 PM
Sleddy wrote on 22nd April 2020, 03:00 PM:
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Lark wrote on 22nd April 2020, 02:55 PM:
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Sleddy wrote on 22nd April 2020, 02:25 PM:
great quote from a person who hasn't played oldcp since 2014
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Sleddy wrote on 22nd April 2020, 02:25 PM:
great quote from a person who hasn't played oldcp since 2014
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oh no I know the flaws and I am trying my best to make it better. It's just funny to me because I have 0 respect for this particular person. He griefed the DSGHQ minecraft server with his friends so I could care less about what he has to say. I'll listen to anyone else who has issues with the game and try to fix those issues, but oh no, not this kid. Also he's been talking about me behind my back about stuff that happened two years ago. He needs to get a life.
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None of them ever griefed. But they did have solid evidence of a mod breaking the rules which you continued to censor from everyone else...which adds to my argument.
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22nd April 2020, 03:26 PM
MuscleBob1 wrote on 22nd April 2020, 03:19 PM:
None of them ever griefed. But they did have solid evidence of a mod breaking the rules which you continued to censor from everyone else...which adds to my argument.
Sled pours a lot of time into this place; she knows what's going on. She's not blind. But there is only so much she can do both by only being one person, and the level of control that she is allowed to have by Damen, which is not all that much it seems.
So maybe keep the focus on actual issues, hm?
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22nd April 2020, 03:47 PM
Allow me to clarify why such a harsh punishment is now here for this sort of thing.
To understand it, you have to imagine you're me for a second.
If my players want their share to be on a rival OldCP, then they will have no share on my OldCP. I worked hard on it, see how many years I put into it. I worked hard on it for YOU to enjoy! I want you to enjoy it, but by doing so in a way which respects me and my hard work i.e. on oldcp.biz, not some other copy.
Now, if anyone wants to make a rival OldCP, do so using your OWN custom work, don't take mine and I shall have no issue with you playing it. But play an OldCP with my stuff copied into it and you will have no share with me.
This is only for a game which copies my work (weapons, files, any client code at even the smallest amount). If you still think its too harsh, then you may be struggling to understand how much this means to me.
To understand it, you have to imagine you're me for a second.
If my players want their share to be on a rival OldCP, then they will have no share on my OldCP. I worked hard on it, see how many years I put into it. I worked hard on it for YOU to enjoy! I want you to enjoy it, but by doing so in a way which respects me and my hard work i.e. on oldcp.biz, not some other copy.
Now, if anyone wants to make a rival OldCP, do so using your OWN custom work, don't take mine and I shall have no issue with you playing it. But play an OldCP with my stuff copied into it and you will have no share with me.
This is only for a game which copies my work (weapons, files, any client code at even the smallest amount). If you still think its too harsh, then you may be struggling to understand how much this means to me.
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22nd April 2020, 03:53 PM
EbonJaeger wrote on 22nd April 2020, 03:26 PM:
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MuscleBob1 wrote on 22nd April 2020, 03:19 PM:
None of them ever griefed. But they did have solid evidence of a mod breaking the rules which you continued to censor from everyone else...which adds to my argument.
None of them ever griefed. But they did have solid evidence of a mod breaking the rules which you continued to censor from everyone else...which adds to my argument.
Sled pours a lot of time into this place; she knows what's going on. She's not blind. But there is only so much she can do both by only being one person, and the level of control that she is allowed to have by Damen, which is not all that much it seems.
So maybe keep the focus on actual issues, hm?
First of all, they never asked anyone to grief your server. Second, Sled brought the whole Minecraft situation up.
Now back on topic, I understand where you're coming from, I'm just trying to say all the staff, not just her, need to be aware of what is going on and how they can resolve these issues. If they don't want users to leave, they need to listen to all opinions from the community.
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22nd April 2020, 04:03 PM
EbonJaeger wrote on 22nd April 2020, 04:02 PM:
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Cheers. It sucks.