The big question is... was Dorval independent of the NWO at the time of Orlock abdicating? Was Orlock a King? Or was he a King Regent on behalf of Pythas/Flame?

The only proof needed should be Wiki:Penguin3D_Land_Ownership . At the time Orlock abdicated, it had him down as a King, not a King Regent.

But then there is proof he submitted to Flame, albeit apparently 'jokingly' doing so.

But I do not care about discord screenshots. I go by the WIKI PAGE!1. That is the ONLY official record of who owns what. And from now on, if its not updated within a reasonable time, then I, Damen, game maker, own the land in question.

So since the Wiki page was not updated even when Orlock WAS a regent of Pythas, neither pick can be king. I become the King of Dorval for Drakes. May this not happen again and the Wiki be kept up to date.

That is reasonable

Damen wrote on 21st July 2021, 12:34 PM:

The big question is... was Dorval independent of the NWO at the time of Orlock abdicating? Was Orlock a King? Or was he a King Regent on behalf of Pythas/Flame?
The only proof needed should be Wiki:Penguin3D_Land_Ownership . At the time Orlock abdicated, it had him down as a King, not a King Regent.
But then there is proof he submitted to Flame, albeit apparently 'jokingly' doing so.
But I do not care about discord screenshots. I go by the WIKI PAGE!1. That is the ONLY official record of who owns what. And from now on, if its not updated within a reasonable time, then I, Damen, game maker, own the land in question.
So since the Wiki page was not updated even when Orlock WAS a regent of Pythas, neither pick can be king. I become the King of Dorval for Drakes. May this not happen again and the Wiki be kept up to date.

thank god you've said something haha it's been very confusing

Hold on a minute,

You can't just waltz into the situation and proclaim "I'm the new King of Dorval". That's discrediting the acual politics that have been going on from both sides to determine who Dorval belongs to. Doing so breaks the system that the game is built upon.

If you really want to pick a new ruler for Dorval, have a trial by combat between the 2 candidates - Alatar and Dice.

Congrats on the new land Damen!

Orbay wrote on 21st July 2021, 01:29 PM:

Hold on a minute,
You can't just waltz into the situation and proclaim "I'm the new King of Dorval". That's discrediting the acual politics that have been going on from both sides to determine who Dorval belongs to. Doing so breaks the system that the game is built upon.
If you really want to pick a new ruler for Dorval, have a trial by combat between the 2 candidates - Alatar and Dice.

This decision sets the precedent for what happens when the official documents are not kept up to date. Politics always makes use of official documents and we can't have a working system without it!

Damen wrote on 21st July 2021, 02:30 PM:

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Orbay wrote on 21st July 2021, 01:29 PM:
Hold on a minute,
You can't just waltz into the situation and proclaim "I'm the new King of Dorval". That's discrediting the acual politics that have been going on from both sides to determine who Dorval belongs to. Doing so breaks the system that the game is built upon.
If you really want to pick a new ruler for Dorval, have a trial by combat between the 2 candidates - Alatar and Dice.

This decision sets the precedent for what happens when the official documents are not kept up to date. Politics always makes use of official documents and we can't have a working system without it!

does that make me dorval helper bro lol xd i broke my toe today

of course you'd do this
there wasn't even any real fighting
this is the worst option
prepare for war
literally the most annoying thing you could've done

You never told us of this documentation of land ownership, SG was not independent and wasn't even active. This is absolutely ridiculous. I'm done.

flameknight333 wrote on 21st July 2021, 02:53 PM:

You never told us of this documentation of land ownership, SG was not independent and wasn't even active. This is absolutely ridiculous. I'm done.

I have a memory of making that wiki and telling people about it a month or two ago. Anyway, I'm sure this won't happen again. I can't please everybody but remember, who was it who made Dorval? Who designed, built and named it? Really, all the lands belong to me. I let people own them out of an interest in making the game enjoyable, but I get to set the rules and I think this one has to be set now before it happens again.

flameknight333 wrote on 21st July 2021, 02:53 PM:

You never told us of this documentation of land ownership, SG was not independent and wasn't even active. This is absolutely ridiculous. I'm done.

Shouldve looked at the wiki

nevermind this message

this is just plain dirty, but alas we'll make the proper arrangements for war.