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Void Era Theory (Trash don't read)
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25th March 2022, 07:57 PM
Hello everyone, Wilf here with a theory that may or may not make any sense.
On OLDCP, the age of gods has been shown to relate to events especially when it comes to the King's system..
We see that Orome was a sort of 'young lad' in the times of Ramen Drake- And passed down through age, to give his children.
Note, that this means there would be gods we haven't met, because they've been lost to history in a sort of bubble in the history I've called the "Void Era"
Relating the age's of Accal (roughly a child) and Orome (An older man- wife and kids) to Orome sightings in Ramen's time, or earlier historic records circa Ramen reign showing Orome to be young.
This means that post- (the gods we know Orome and the rest), are gods and people we have never met.
This void era could explain why the Shinobi clan are so nowadays negated (having been during the times of Rocketsnail, so deep deep in the void era)
Also this brings up a bit of a side theory The Four Families of the Shinobi CZ that I gathered to be important during the "Void Era"
The Snows - A bit unsure as to what they actually were, but they are highly regarded almost "holy" descendants of some sort of greater land.. (Not sure if canon, but I remember hearing the Shinobi/Samurai capitol was actually sunken?)
The Midnights - Though this is completely uncanon now (because of Damen's removal of vamps) Alatar's kin were probable rulers during the Void Era, as many older early Vampires referred to a glory age for their kin during ages long long into the past.
The Hydra - This is all very convoluted, but according to a Shinobi I'd spoken with- Cthulhu had a prevalent following and hold during the ages of ancient, being referenced by both old Vampire and Shinobi.
The Forresters - We know for sure the Forest used to be much grander, though Orome is credited as the main ruler of the Forest, I speculate that many grander rulers of the Forest existed during the "Void Era"
We have other references to the Void Era, as Melkor's actions during the ancient ages (pretraining to OLDCP lore moreso P3D LOTR lore) are plausibly in the same time period roughly, as the "Void Era" (Very very late into it, before we entered modern Era)
Thank you for listening to my theory, I'll shut up now.
Word meanings(ses)
Rocketsnail - (Ancient leader, founder of the empire and original drake..?)
Void Era - (The Ancient, Ancient era- before modern Gods such as Orome, Manwe)
LOTR lore/Oldcp Lore - (Though OLDCP fills its 'cracks' with LOTR, Orome's youngness during the age of Ramen, and emperors that go past Ramen imply older gods and history we haven't gotten yet)
Aight c-ya
On OLDCP, the age of gods has been shown to relate to events especially when it comes to the King's system..
We see that Orome was a sort of 'young lad' in the times of Ramen Drake- And passed down through age, to give his children.
Note, that this means there would be gods we haven't met, because they've been lost to history in a sort of bubble in the history I've called the "Void Era"
Relating the age's of Accal (roughly a child) and Orome (An older man- wife and kids) to Orome sightings in Ramen's time, or earlier historic records circa Ramen reign showing Orome to be young.
This means that post- (the gods we know Orome and the rest), are gods and people we have never met.
This void era could explain why the Shinobi clan are so nowadays negated (having been during the times of Rocketsnail, so deep deep in the void era)
Also this brings up a bit of a side theory The Four Families of the Shinobi CZ that I gathered to be important during the "Void Era"
The Snows - A bit unsure as to what they actually were, but they are highly regarded almost "holy" descendants of some sort of greater land.. (Not sure if canon, but I remember hearing the Shinobi/Samurai capitol was actually sunken?)
The Midnights - Though this is completely uncanon now (because of Damen's removal of vamps) Alatar's kin were probable rulers during the Void Era, as many older early Vampires referred to a glory age for their kin during ages long long into the past.
The Hydra - This is all very convoluted, but according to a Shinobi I'd spoken with- Cthulhu had a prevalent following and hold during the ages of ancient, being referenced by both old Vampire and Shinobi.
The Forresters - We know for sure the Forest used to be much grander, though Orome is credited as the main ruler of the Forest, I speculate that many grander rulers of the Forest existed during the "Void Era"
We have other references to the Void Era, as Melkor's actions during the ancient ages (pretraining to OLDCP lore moreso P3D LOTR lore) are plausibly in the same time period roughly, as the "Void Era" (Very very late into it, before we entered modern Era)
Thank you for listening to my theory, I'll shut up now.
Word meanings(ses)
Rocketsnail - (Ancient leader, founder of the empire and original drake..?)
Void Era - (The Ancient, Ancient era- before modern Gods such as Orome, Manwe)
LOTR lore/Oldcp Lore - (Though OLDCP fills its 'cracks' with LOTR, Orome's youngness during the age of Ramen, and emperors that go past Ramen imply older gods and history we haven't gotten yet)
Aight c-ya
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25th March 2022, 10:31 PM
wizle wrote on 25th March 2022, 07:57 PM:
Hello everyone, Wilf here with a theory that may or may not make any sense.
On OLDCP, the age of gods has been shown to relate to events especially when it comes to the King's system..
We see that Orome was a sort of 'young lad' in the times of Ramen Drake- And passed down through age, to give his children.
Note, that this means there would be gods we haven't met, because they've been lost to history in a sort of bubble in the history I've called the "Void Era"
Relating the age's of Accal (roughly a child) and Orome (An older man- wife and kids) to Orome sightings in Ramen's time, or earlier historic records circa Ramen reign showing Orome to be young.
This means that post- (the gods we know Orome and the rest), are gods and people we have never met.
This void era could explain why the Shinobi clan are so nowadays negated (having been during the times of Rocketsnail, so deep deep in the void era)
Also this brings up a bit of a side theory The Four Families of the Shinobi CZ that I gathered to be important during the "Void Era"
The Snows - A bit unsure as to what they actually were, but they are highly regarded almost "holy" descendants of some sort of greater land.. (Not sure if canon, but I remember hearing the Shinobi/Samurai capitol was actually sunken?)
The Midnights - Though this is completely uncanon now (because of Damen's removal of vamps) Alatar's kin were probable rulers during the Void Era, as many older early Vampires referred to a glory age for their kin during ages long long into the past.
The Hydra - This is all very convoluted, but according to a Shinobi I'd spoken with- Cthulhu had a prevalent following and hold during the ages of ancient, being referenced by both old Vampire and Shinobi.
The Forresters - We know for sure the Forest used to be much grander, though Orome is credited as the main ruler of the Forest, I speculate that many grander rulers of the Forest existed during the "Void Era"
We have other references to the Void Era, as Melkor's actions during the ancient ages (pretraining to OLDCP lore moreso P3D LOTR lore) are plausibly in the same time period roughly, as the "Void Era" (Very very late into it, before we entered modern Era)
Thank you for listening to my theory, I'll shut up now.
Word meanings(ses)
Rocketsnail - (Ancient leader, founder of the empire and original drake..?)
Void Era - (The Ancient, Ancient era- before modern Gods such as Orome, Manwe)
LOTR lore/Oldcp Lore - (Though OLDCP fills its 'cracks' with LOTR, Orome's youngness during the age of Ramen, and emperors that go past Ramen imply older gods and history we haven't gotten yet)
Aight c-ya
On OLDCP, the age of gods has been shown to relate to events especially when it comes to the King's system..
We see that Orome was a sort of 'young lad' in the times of Ramen Drake- And passed down through age, to give his children.
Note, that this means there would be gods we haven't met, because they've been lost to history in a sort of bubble in the history I've called the "Void Era"
Relating the age's of Accal (roughly a child) and Orome (An older man- wife and kids) to Orome sightings in Ramen's time, or earlier historic records circa Ramen reign showing Orome to be young.
This means that post- (the gods we know Orome and the rest), are gods and people we have never met.
This void era could explain why the Shinobi clan are so nowadays negated (having been during the times of Rocketsnail, so deep deep in the void era)
Also this brings up a bit of a side theory The Four Families of the Shinobi CZ that I gathered to be important during the "Void Era"
The Snows - A bit unsure as to what they actually were, but they are highly regarded almost "holy" descendants of some sort of greater land.. (Not sure if canon, but I remember hearing the Shinobi/Samurai capitol was actually sunken?)
The Midnights - Though this is completely uncanon now (because of Damen's removal of vamps) Alatar's kin were probable rulers during the Void Era, as many older early Vampires referred to a glory age for their kin during ages long long into the past.
The Hydra - This is all very convoluted, but according to a Shinobi I'd spoken with- Cthulhu had a prevalent following and hold during the ages of ancient, being referenced by both old Vampire and Shinobi.
The Forresters - We know for sure the Forest used to be much grander, though Orome is credited as the main ruler of the Forest, I speculate that many grander rulers of the Forest existed during the "Void Era"
We have other references to the Void Era, as Melkor's actions during the ancient ages (pretraining to OLDCP lore moreso P3D LOTR lore) are plausibly in the same time period roughly, as the "Void Era" (Very very late into it, before we entered modern Era)
Thank you for listening to my theory, I'll shut up now.
Word meanings(ses)
Rocketsnail - (Ancient leader, founder of the empire and original drake..?)
Void Era - (The Ancient, Ancient era- before modern Gods such as Orome, Manwe)
LOTR lore/Oldcp Lore - (Though OLDCP fills its 'cracks' with LOTR, Orome's youngness during the age of Ramen, and emperors that go past Ramen imply older gods and history we haven't gotten yet)
Aight c-ya
Cool theory, let's discuss the actual canon.
The modern "gods" have always existed since the creation of Ea. We do not know all of their names, since some Ainur chose to stay in the Timeless Halls, which cannot be accessed once exited except by the will of Iluvitar.
Orome (Rashad) is an ainur, specifically valar. He is a spirit and non-corporeal, created into the body of a perfect man. Because he is a spirit-man hybrid, he has abilities that are different from regular mortals. One of those is manipulating age. Most spirit people can manipulate their physical age as they are immortal, except Nook because being an ice child is his preferred physical form. Orome being younger in one time period and older in another is a choice created by him alone, as Aldaron on P3D originally had blonde hair, like his younger counterpart. Manwe seemed to have died of old age, but there's a few answers for that. 1. His OLDCP physical death was caused by someone striking him when he was severely weakened, because he knew he was going to die. 2. Manwe died in P3D physically because Ainur on P3D are not immortal, but they do live a long time.
The void era you are referring to is what we consider the First Ages of the World, when Melkor caused chaos. Basically all of the events of the book The Silmarillion are canon in the story of DSGHQ.
The Snow Family, from what I remember, was started by Queen Snowfalls and her brother Hoarmurath.
It's unknown exactly when Midnight was founded by it was definitely founded when Melkor corrupted elves to create vampires and creating the Fangsworn Castle in the West. We do not know who founded the Fangsworn but theories say it's Dendra.
House Hydra was created by Orbay in the modern era, though it could be the house that Cthulhu and his seaspawn serve under. Cthulhu we have no idea when he started to exist but it has to be before the death of Melody, and he's definitely elder than Pythas in power and knowledge.
The Forresters were founded by Orome and Kynareth, the forest children are Forresters but they themselves are from the House of Illuvitar, being spiritual beings.
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25th March 2022, 11:48 PM
fable wrote on 25th March 2022, 10:31 PM:
Quote:
wizle wrote on 25th March 2022, 07:57 PM:
Hello everyone, Wilf here with a theory that may or may not make any sense.
On OLDCP, the age of gods has been shown to relate to events especially when it comes to the King's system..
We see that Orome was a sort of 'young lad' in the times of Ramen Drake- And passed down through age, to give his children.
Note, that this means there would be gods we haven't met, because they've been lost to history in a sort of bubble in the history I've called the "Void Era"
Relating the age's of Accal (roughly a child) and Orome (An older man- wife and kids) to Orome sightings in Ramen's time, or earlier historic records circa Ramen reign showing Orome to be young.
This means that post- (the gods we know Orome and the rest), are gods and people we have never met.
This void era could explain why the Shinobi clan are so nowadays negated (having been during the times of Rocketsnail, so deep deep in the void era)
Also this brings up a bit of a side theory The Four Families of the Shinobi CZ that I gathered to be important during the "Void Era"
The Snows - A bit unsure as to what they actually were, but they are highly regarded almost "holy" descendants of some sort of greater land.. (Not sure if canon, but I remember hearing the Shinobi/Samurai capitol was actually sunken?)
The Midnights - Though this is completely uncanon now (because of Damen's removal of vamps) Alatar's kin were probable rulers during the Void Era, as many older early Vampires referred to a glory age for their kin during ages long long into the past.
The Hydra - This is all very convoluted, but according to a Shinobi I'd spoken with- Cthulhu had a prevalent following and hold during the ages of ancient, being referenced by both old Vampire and Shinobi.
The Forresters - We know for sure the Forest used to be much grander, though Orome is credited as the main ruler of the Forest, I speculate that many grander rulers of the Forest existed during the "Void Era"
We have other references to the Void Era, as Melkor's actions during the ancient ages (pretraining to OLDCP lore moreso P3D LOTR lore) are plausibly in the same time period roughly, as the "Void Era" (Very very late into it, before we entered modern Era)
Thank you for listening to my theory, I'll shut up now.
Word meanings(ses)
Rocketsnail - (Ancient leader, founder of the empire and original drake..?)
Void Era - (The Ancient, Ancient era- before modern Gods such as Orome, Manwe)
LOTR lore/Oldcp Lore - (Though OLDCP fills its 'cracks' with LOTR, Orome's youngness during the age of Ramen, and emperors that go past Ramen imply older gods and history we haven't gotten yet)
Aight c-ya
Hello everyone, Wilf here with a theory that may or may not make any sense.
On OLDCP, the age of gods has been shown to relate to events especially when it comes to the King's system..
We see that Orome was a sort of 'young lad' in the times of Ramen Drake- And passed down through age, to give his children.
Note, that this means there would be gods we haven't met, because they've been lost to history in a sort of bubble in the history I've called the "Void Era"
Relating the age's of Accal (roughly a child) and Orome (An older man- wife and kids) to Orome sightings in Ramen's time, or earlier historic records circa Ramen reign showing Orome to be young.
This means that post- (the gods we know Orome and the rest), are gods and people we have never met.
This void era could explain why the Shinobi clan are so nowadays negated (having been during the times of Rocketsnail, so deep deep in the void era)
Also this brings up a bit of a side theory The Four Families of the Shinobi CZ that I gathered to be important during the "Void Era"
The Snows - A bit unsure as to what they actually were, but they are highly regarded almost "holy" descendants of some sort of greater land.. (Not sure if canon, but I remember hearing the Shinobi/Samurai capitol was actually sunken?)
The Midnights - Though this is completely uncanon now (because of Damen's removal of vamps) Alatar's kin were probable rulers during the Void Era, as many older early Vampires referred to a glory age for their kin during ages long long into the past.
The Hydra - This is all very convoluted, but according to a Shinobi I'd spoken with- Cthulhu had a prevalent following and hold during the ages of ancient, being referenced by both old Vampire and Shinobi.
The Forresters - We know for sure the Forest used to be much grander, though Orome is credited as the main ruler of the Forest, I speculate that many grander rulers of the Forest existed during the "Void Era"
We have other references to the Void Era, as Melkor's actions during the ancient ages (pretraining to OLDCP lore moreso P3D LOTR lore) are plausibly in the same time period roughly, as the "Void Era" (Very very late into it, before we entered modern Era)
Thank you for listening to my theory, I'll shut up now.
Word meanings(ses)
Rocketsnail - (Ancient leader, founder of the empire and original drake..?)
Void Era - (The Ancient, Ancient era- before modern Gods such as Orome, Manwe)
LOTR lore/Oldcp Lore - (Though OLDCP fills its 'cracks' with LOTR, Orome's youngness during the age of Ramen, and emperors that go past Ramen imply older gods and history we haven't gotten yet)
Aight c-ya
The modern "gods" have always existed since the creation of Ea. We do not know all of their names, since some Ainur chose to stay in the Timeless Halls, which cannot be accessed once exited except by the will of Iluvitar.
Orome (Rashad) is an ainur, specifically valar. He is a spirit and non-corporeal, created into the body of a perfect man. Because he is a spirit-man hybrid, he has abilities that are different from regular mortals. One of those is manipulating age. Most spirit people can manipulate their physical age as they are immortal, except Nook because being an ice child is his preferred physical form. Orome being younger in one time period and older in another is a choice created by him alone, as Aldaron on P3D originally had blonde hair, like his younger counterpart. Manwe seemed to have died of old age, but there's a few answers for that. 1. His OLDCP physical death was caused by someone striking him when he was severely weakened, because he knew he was going to die. 2. Manwe died in P3D physically because Ainur on P3D are not immortal, but they do live a long time.
The void era you are referring to is what we consider the First Ages of the World, when Melkor caused chaos. Basically all of the events of the book The Silmarillion are canon in the story of DSGHQ.
The Snow Family, from what I remember, was started by Queen Snowfalls and her brother Hoarmurath.
It's unknown exactly when Midnight was founded by it was definitely founded when Melkor corrupted elves to create vampires and creating the Fangsworn Castle in the West. We do not know who founded the Fangsworn but theories say it's Dendra.
House Hydra was created by Orbay in the modern era, though it could be the house that Cthulhu and his seaspawn serve under. Cthulhu we have no idea when he started to exist but it has to be before the death of Melody, and he's definitely elder than Pythas in power and knowledge.
The Forresters were founded by Orome and Kynareth, the forest children are Forresters but they themselves are from the House of Illuvitar, being spiritual beings.
Correct (Though it's odd Orome refers to people living before him canonically- referring to a birthdate in the known era.. perhaps the late void era), I believe the void era still applies to the kings rule;
No historical documentation past Ramen (or further, if my memory fails) where the empire's actions are accounted for. This means that all emperors from Ramen back to Rocket, save a few for memory failure but only like 1-2, are entirely un-accounted for.
This makes 5-7 era's of unknown reigns and people that we have no historical documentation for.
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