Very nice. Excited to see these new changes in place, and I hope this merge helps to create a definitive edition of OldCP, in a way that everyone in the community can enjoy.

No Empire? Does that mean the strongest party will be able to occupy the South?

Also, I'm fine with the game having a Warden, but if we're going to have someone in power which gets changed every season, why not bring the Presidency back?

We can have a Warden and a President. The Warden will be in charge of cz, and the President will be in charge of the government. No Judges though.

Despite being one of the least popular presidents, Andrew Jackson undoubtedly has had one the of the most interesting lives a President could have.

Not many people can say that they almost got shot twice, only for both guns to misfire, especially a US President.

Thank you for this informative post

This is a certified Bruh moment

Honestly, I'd go with converting OldCP to HTML5. Oldcp's more than a game at this point, it's an archive of 7+ years of experience, and I feel it should be properly preserved

Truly disgusting, that some "people" would do such a terrible thing.

Imagine making a post that's giving genuine constructive criticism about a game you play, only for people to all go: "If you don't like it, don't play it", as if you need to play the game religiously to have your opinion matter at all.

Is that how you treat people who give suggestions about a game? Tell them to quit?

Alatar's pretty right, actually. The game, while it does have a lot of potential, can get pretty dull pretty quickly. Damen said a while back he would consider adding NPC's and quests, but idk what became of that.

Good post

Cristal412 wrote on 30th January 2021, 06:34 PM:

I got into a fight with Orbay once. I logged on oldcp ONCE to support tom at his trial and to look for jesse because I haven’t seen him in awhile. During the trial, me and a few others yelled GAY RIGHTS but only to make TOM laugh (and ONLY TOM). It wasn’t directed to anyone else because we literally just wanted to cheer him up.
I don’t know how the argument started with orbay but I did not harass him. I just rlly don’t feel comfortable anymore around him as i used to and i made it very clear why. Arguments happen and people disagree with each other.. it doesn’t make a person toxic if they don’t like someone lol.
Little has like over 1k rep im sure 3-4 dislikes doesn’t leave a dent in her rep at all. the fact that disliking a post is now considered toxic, when everyone used to mass dislike srirams post because his raps were weird.. but he was just spreading content he liked. The double standards are real, especially when it comes to a person thats widely disliked in the community vs someone who is widely loved in the community.
a question arises of whether or not a person deserves to be widely loved in the community or widely hated in the community. that’s honestly rlly up to your own opinions and how you see people. but what if there are people who are getting hate that don’t deserve it? and what if there are ppl getting praised who don’t deserve it.
It’s weird that there’s an automatic assumption that everyone in shapiro is toxic, when a few of us just played roblox for a few hours and shared light hearted jokes. Also, ever since i made that post about sled and dice not handling my ban properly, people in this community obviously have a different opinion of me now. It’s like the minute you disagree or dislike a person that is really loved in this community.. you’re toxic all of a sudden, because how can you hate a person that everyone loves?
Anyways, I admit i get into arguments with a few people i morally can’t respect. Please understand that this is something normal.. and not toxic. Everyone in shapiro, as val said.. literally talks about games, music, or school. no one is plotting against oldcp lol.

The argument started because you lot kept telling people to shut up mid-trial so Tom could speak, then proceeded to start yelling "GAY RIGHTS" out of nowhere, again, mid-trial.

And when I told you lot to simmer down, you all started yelling "ORBAY HAS A PROBLEM WITH GAY RIGHTS?". So spare me the dramatic crap.


"I did not harass him"

You called me a groomer out of absolutely nowhere mid-trial and then got offended when I called you out for saying it.

Then you proceeded to spam "groomer" while tagging me in the CO Discord server.

And then you tried to provide "evidence", it was a screenshot of something Charles said, which is just incorrect and a blatant lie.

And not only did you do all of that, you felt the need to bring this up on a post that had nothing to do with the subject at all, knowing damn well that you're in the wrong.

What you did that day and today is the textbook definition of "toxic", and you trying to save face and play victim by writing this post is pathetic.

Valentina's absolutely right. Shapiro isn't the problem. People like you are.

Allow me to present my truly unbiased response to your "argument"

- Your point about "Wilf being hushed" is a complete conspiracy you made that has no validity whatsoever. Nobody "hushed" Wilf. Damen gave DRAKE the order to fight, not Rouge.

- Libitina is, by no means, evil. We denounced all evil and vowed not to return to it. So that point is invalid.

- Again, DRAKEs weren't ordered to fight by "high admins". They were ordered to fight by Damen himself. No admin has the authorization to give that order.

- If furniture was still present in the room, you could have, at any time, pinged Rouge again to remove them. But you waited until after the war to point them out. You had no problem with them being in the room until after the war, so they clearly didn't cause you any troubles.

Also, cameras do not cause any lag whatsoever. The only items that really make the room lag is fire. Rouge keeping the tennis court in Frost Castle means nothing because the fighting happened only in Cold Fort Throne Room.

- The cussing happened before the war, where a STAGS agent pulled a gun on spawn in forest. I'm pretty sure Damen added it just for the sake of it.

- You can't justify spawn killing someone via a missile when you're this heated over 2 cameras in a room.

- Despite what the 2 DRAKE agents said, no weapons were given during the war. You can ask Damen to check logs.

- Miro spawning bots was a ploy from IMPERIAL to try and sabotage us. And before anyone gets triggered from this, just think of it for a moment:

Miro logs on, claims he's with us. We warn him not to spawn bots, to which he says "I won't, dw". Moments later, he spawns bots, goes "OOPS", and leaves.

The moment he spawns bots, every IMPERIAL agent, at the same time, goes "WOO, WE WON" in mod messages.

If you're still trying to blame us for this blatantly obvious attempt at sabotage, then I suggest you re-evaluate your life decisions.

- You randomly attacked DRAKE accounts mid-war, out of absolutely nowhere, for the sake of "fun". You kicked Kace out the war because this was a "war of man", but stayed around to occasionally attack us anyway.

I smell hypocrisy.

- You calling out Kace for fighting and not Pek is again, pure hypocrisy. Kace, per his cz duties, is obligated to fight Pek, who works with evil.

- You have not provided any evidence to this "kicking" claim, so I will not be taking this as fact until you can provide some.

(I saw Damen's response after I posted this but I'm still keeping it up)

If a moderator bans you, regardless of reason, you have every right to know who banned you.

Having witnessed these events myself, I can say that the way Cristal's request was incredibly poor, and downright embarrassing. The hoops that they had to jump through just to avoid disclosing the moderator that banned you was just, sad.

Cristal, I'm sorry that your only experience on Oldcp for a good while had to turn out like this, but I'm afraid the staff team has been like this for a long time, and since Saber's resignation from the CO, the CO chat has been no different.

I don't know if Damen intends to do anything about this, but something must be done. Be it an evaluation, to a complete overhaul of the staff team.

Tom080 wrote on 31st December 2020, 10:47 AM:

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Orbay wrote on 31st December 2020, 10:41 AM:
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Tom080 wrote on 31st December 2020, 09:55 AM:
This post is really unnecessary lol.

You wanted get rid of us because we were evil, but when Rouge makes a post calling out actual evil, it's unnecessary?
Idk man, smells like bias
I'm not even referring to you or your group. It's just unnecessary making a post shaming others all because of a desired place in CZ.

Rouge didn't shame anyone. Her post is a neutral one that was made from observation. However, if you want to see shaming, you don't need to look far. You literally shamed "our group" because we "desired a place" that didn't align with yours. But now you're fine with someone going evil, and very willing to support it too. What changed?

NewMexico wrote on 31st December 2020, 10:45 AM:

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Rouge11 wrote on 31st December 2020, 09:37 AM:
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NewMexico wrote on 31st December 2020, 09:25 AM:
Im aware of what little has done but she was manipulated by pythas I will help her

Check your mail
Warth wrote on 31st December 2020, 09:34 AM:
lol what this aint no election
Funny, that's exactly what Little said to me. Are u sure she didn't instruct you to say that?
Do not insult me woman of fire I make my own choices you will see why i chose my path the way i did now silence.

Simp

Tom080 wrote on 31st December 2020, 09:55 AM:

This post is really unnecessary lol.

You wanted get rid of us because we were evil, but when Rouge makes a post calling out actual evil, it's unnecessary?

Idk man, smells like bias

I don't think we got much to worry about when ur meetings look like this

Who?