This is a post calling out the Drakes, especially the current Lord of Drakes, Damen himself.

You say you are an honorable house, but you have decided to weaken the rings before a critical war.

If you truly want to fight honorably, then this is my challenge to you:

Restore the power of the rings.

It's completely outside cz bounds to weaken rings because certain people couldn't fathom the fact that a Draconian could be stronger than them, and cry wolf when they can't 2 hit kill a Draconian.

Only if you do this, will the Draconians accept that the Drakes are honorable. If not, the Drake Lineage will be hereby known as "Drake the Dishonorable".

Calling it: fortnite rpg

Sleddy wrote on 4th October 2020, 10:33 AM:

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Sleddy wrote on 3rd October 2020, 10:22 PM:
You're going to hate to hear this but the rules that are in place is that evil should not randomly kill unless it's part of crimezone, like orders given to them from the characters. Or they fight in war. That's the tough part about being evil is having that restraint, because if you don't then it's abuse. It's how things are, if we let evil randomly kill without consequences like this then innocents who are just trying to play the game will get annoyed and lose interest because they have to create new accounts a ton of times. Both evil and good that kill randomly should receive consequences, although it is not always the case, and that should be worked on.

If evil cant kill innocents, whats the point of treason, trials, KOS/AOS orders, etc. Ruins the purpose. Plus, this game doesnt have many casual players anymore and most play for crimezone
its not like cz every happens and most wars are rigged for Good to win. take north war for example, a gatekeeper says “Prepare for victory” or whatever and the blockade breaks LOL??
there isn't supposed to be treason, trials, kos/aos orders. it's there because people don't follow the rules. but even if evil kills innocents for crimezone it's there for that too. it's part of being evil. the whole point is that you're not supposed to do it randomly/for no reason. same with people who aren't evil. they're not supposed to randomly kill as well. as for cz being inactive and wars being rigged for good, there's been times when good has lost. but not much can be done about it unless crimezone helps out evil more/it stops being rigged.
that's actually false, that stuff has been there for as long as I remember. its supposed to be in place, as it gives knights, and executioners a reason to be/exist. if no one can do anything against the law, since they're just banned, there's literally no point in having weapons at all
well I agree that they shouldn't be banned for their actions, and yes all of those things exist so we can prosecute those who break the laws. But it doesn't mean people (good and bad) should go around killing for no reason. That's where the gray area is. What is considered a pointless killing in the hands of evil when evil is there to cause fear? To do bad things in the name of pythas? All that is said that it's supposed to be for crimezone, as an order that's given to them. But I understand the need to further punish people who keep doing the same mistakes over and over again. But it isn't done to the "good side" as much as it should be as well. In fact the lack of trials makes me wonder, because there was a need to trial basically every week when I was EH because people breaking the laws, but then again OldCP hasn't been as active. But trials allowed for a more ingame/no ban approach.

I completely agree that killing innocents randomly is wrong, for both sides, and whoever does so should be punished by the respective Island ruler. I'm just against the thought that it's a bannable offense.

I'm glad we were able to come to an understanding on that subject.

Sleddy wrote on 3rd October 2020, 10:22 PM:

You're going to hate to hear this but the rules that are in place is that evil should not randomly kill unless it's part of crimezone, like orders given to them from the characters. Or they fight in war. That's the tough part about being evil is having that restraint, because if you don't then it's abuse. It's how things are, if we let evil randomly kill without consequences like this then innocents who are just trying to play the game will get annoyed and lose interest because they have to create new accounts a ton of times. Both evil and good that kill randomly should receive consequences, although it is not always the case, and that should be worked on.

And that's precisely why we have Knights and Mode. If someone commits murder, it's literally their job to arrest, and the Knights' job to kill them. A Drac can't get armed often, only when an entity like Pig grants wishes. And if a mod or knight is going to complain about times when Dracs do get armed, they should just resign because they're too incompetent to do one of their main jobs.

There is no rule that says you can't kill innocents. There is a law, yes, but not a rule. Meaning you can't straight up ban people for killing innocents.

Also, the part about how "good" people can't kill evil people for no reason is such a lie. There has been heavy bias in favor of the "good" when it comes to killing unarmed characters. You have people like Akkar who kill characters like PIG for no reason, and Loki who maul them, then pull the victim card, to name a few.

How do you expect us to show restraint when you all show none?

Also, what new users? The game's literally gone download-only. There are no new users.

Macy wrote on 3rd October 2020, 10:46 AM:

Why should you have to be ranked for the death to be counted as an offense? I was killed in random spots because it was funny and didn't matter because the game was dying; what the murderer expressed to me. Killing innocents who are working hard on earning hours whether it be POTM hours or gold earnings for a certain cosmetic, they shouldn't have that taken away and have no reason to be revived because the person who killed them was titled as "evil". By naming unranked players who kill "evil", and saying it should be allowed, what if that person decided to drop seven differen't nukes around oldcp or just wen't on a killing spree with a saber, that would be viable because death is apart of the game and that person is evil?

I never said it isn't an offense, nor it shouldn't be punishable. Obviously you're going to punish people who kill, but you do it via arresting and executing them, not banning them.

Both a ranked user who abuses their weapon and an evil person who kills are subject to the same punishment. I just wanted to clear up the misconception that:

1) Evil people are exploiting/abusing
2) They should be banned because of it

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Why would you support kicking/banning someone over snowball spam than a murder massacre happening right in front of you?

Because evil exists in this game? If you're going to just ban everyone and anyone who murders, then what's the point of having trials, or even having an evil side to begin with?

It's a game. Some people just want to watch the world burn, and so they'll do it when cz gives them weapons to do so.

Loki wrote on 3rd October 2020, 11:18 AM:

Evil murdering people is abuse when it is not part of crimezone and does not further the plot of crimezone in any way, shape, or form. This is how its pretty much always been. Long ago I killed Layla because I was evil and I was punished severely and she got revived. Why? Because it was pure and simple abuse. There was no good reason for it. Evil have the responsibility to use their weapons wisely. Just because they’re evil does not give them the right to constantly break laws or rules.
When people are killed for crimezone, there’s not much of a problem. When it’s for no reason, there’s a problem.

There's not always a reason to kill. If you want to do it, you do it. And if you do it illegally, you get punished by being arrested and possibly executed.

But by banning anyone who commits murder, you're basically ruining the fun of having weapons in the game.

"You can use weapons to fight, except if you're evil, you can't kill anyone unless a cz character logs on. Or you're big bad and gotta be banned."

Also, it's incredibly funny how you're against abuse of weapons when you literally maul cz characters for no reason, then play the victim and say "they targeted you".

The hypocrisy is leaking out.

Hello,
As you've all seen recently, Damen made a post where he shared recent logs of people who died and stated that he removed the weapons of Biter and Warth for "exploiting them". This, in turn caused an argument between the users of the South and people like Alatar and Biter about whether the recent murders were exploits or not.

Regardless of what side I'm on, I've always been one to encourage fairness, and that is why today, I will be sharing my reasons for taking Alatar's side in this debate, and why I believe that there was no exploiting done.

What is "exploit?"
Exploit: Make use of (a situation) in a way considered unfair or underhand.

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unfair or underhand.

According to this definition, people like Mance, Biter and Warth would have to obtain their weapons through methods that are outside of the game's rules, such as hacking.

However, that's not the case. While it is true that some may have received their weapons from PIG, that's still very within the rules of the game.

Now that I've established that it's not an exploit, let's discuss if it's considered "abuse".

Is an evil person killing someone abuse?
This has been an argument for a while, and while there has been no clear answer due to contrasting ideas, I hope to put an end to this.

Murder committed by someone evil is not abuse.

Does that mean abuse doesn't exist? No. If you are ranked and you use your weapon to kill innocents, then you've abused a weapon you've been entrusted with.

But evil people don't have that responsibility, so they are in no shape or form obligated to refrain from killing people, including innocents. On the contrary, they're encouraged to kill in the name of Pythas, so it should be completely understandable that they can and will commit murders in the island of South.

I saw a quote from Loki that said:

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Exploits can unbalance the game and rules are there to keep it fair and safe

And that is exactly correct. However, this doesn't mean Warth or Mance have broken any rules because:

Laws are not the same as rules
Rules were put in place to prevent users from doing things such as spamming snowballs, or using illegal methods to exploit the game. They apply in the entirety of the game, and can be punished with arrest, kick, or ban.

Laws, however, are placed individually by each Island ruler to prevent the disruption of peace in said islands. Acts such as attempted murder and murder are against the laws, and can be punished by being arrested or executed.

Or, at least it should be.

Murder is against the laws, not the rules, so it shouldn't be a bannable offense, even if it's a mass slaughter.

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You would end up banned on your rampages because you would target people who wanted no part of anything, like mods who were there to moderate rather than be killed by you in your selfish abuse

That's... the point.

Evil people kill so they can spread despair and suffering onto others in the name of Pythas. I know that doesn't sound good, but then they wouldn't be "evil", would they?

Conclusion
Killing people should not be a bannable offense, nor should it cause someone to be disarmed without being arrested first. This game carries a lot of bias when it comes to whether someone who killed someone should be arrested or banned, and I'm calling out those who have partaken in this act (you know who you are.)

If you want to add an actual evil side to this game, then you have to learn to differentiate whether something is breaking a rule, or breaking a law.

To the mods:
If someone is spamming snowballs, you're expected to warn, kick and/or ban them.

But when someone commits murder, you shouldn't kick or ban them, you should arrest them so they can be disarmed and trialed, or killed in jail, depending on circumstances.

To Damen:
Revivals after "unfair deaths" are dumb. They ruin the point of targeted assassinations or targeted slaughters. The only clause for a revival should be if you were either in spawn, or if your health was manipulated illegally in db.


So, yeah.

Removing weapons from someone who died 7 times and killed 0 people (Biter)

Nice

forestboynook wrote on 10th September 2020, 04:54 PM:

THIS IS A MAIL ABOUT SONS OF THE PROPHETS. I AM YOUR LEADER AND CAN'T YOU TELL I'M MAD RIGHT NOW? I HAVEN'T EVEN GOT ANY ONE HELPING ME TO STAY WITH MY PROPHECEIES DURING THIS DARK TIME OF ME DYING DONT YOU KNOW I DIED???????? TO FROGS???????????? THE FACT I HAVE YOU GUYS IS NOT ENOUGH I NEED YOU ON MY SIDE TOO WHY CANT YOU JUST LIKE ASK FOR THE SONS OF THE PROPHETS PROPHECY ON THIS HARD TIME INSTEAD YOU JUST DONT CARE I DIED???????

Reconsider your sons of prophets? Pick ones that make actual prophecies

I've actually known about the Myers-Briggs Test for a while, and I turned out to be an INFJ.

To sum it up, I'm basically a walking contradiction, and INFJ's make up less than a percent of the male population.

So, that's pretty cool

Frogs wrote on 6th September 2020, 02:30 PM:

Complaining about my weapon when Turin has 99999 db health, 1 hit choke and OP weapons, and a random ass kid who likes little girls named Light has unreasonably OP health and a weapon that 3 hits OP people, and Orbay who also has choke that can kill in 2 seconds for legit no reason.
all I have is a needle and it was made to kill Tulkas, but you guys decide to war & fight me, so I use it against you, if you guys can be fair and not spam overpowered bots, not use redmiles and stop begging Turin for overpowered force choke, then we'll fight fairly and ill only fight people like turin & tulkas w my needle.

Frogs wrote on 5th September 2020, 03:37 PM:

Frogs wrote on 5th September 2020, 12:30 PM:

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zes wrote on 5th September 2020, 12:29 PM:
i arrested him boy RELAX

NO IDC U ARREST CUZ I MADE THIS POST AND UR RELEASING HIM IN LIKE 3 HRS LEGIT NAH

But bro...

Idc

Dice has ruined POTM again, but this time, on forums!

Damn you, Dice!

Damen wrote on 29th August 2020, 11:59 AM:

This is a goal for me, its technically quite a challenge but Im exploring different ways to do it. I wanna make sure its solid and not glitchy like in LeoRPG.
If its a single player game, its easy. Add multiplayer then it becomes hard with pathfinding sync etc

I have no doubts that you can make a solid and legit NPC system.

You could consider a single player story mode, in which the rewards you earn, like weapons, ores or other items, could transfer over to the multiplayer world. Or you could just stick to a multiplayer one. Your choice, really.